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asudevil · #41 03-01-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What happened today that would change his mind?

5 Lee Stewart Pino M G 123 6.90 4.20 2.90

9 A J Kids Pino M G 120 22.60 11.60 8.70

1 Malibu Moonshine Pino M G 115 31.60 10.20

The Bid · #42 03-01-2008, 11:20 PM

Pinheads are only as good as the last ride they give. Hes fine for the night, he will resume being a goat around 1pm tomorrow.

blackthroatedwind · #43 03-01-2008, 11:21 PM

He rode them fine.....two were the best in bad fields and one got a great set up. He didn't do anything remarkable with any of them.....just as he hasn't done nearly as much wrong as some seem to think.....at least in my opinion. Being the second best rider at Aqueduct right now isn't a lot to be excited about.

Frankly, Pino is what most of these guys aren't....a professional jockey. I say this as a compliment. He doesn't get left a majority of the time ( see Rajiv Maragh ), he tries to save ground when possible ( unlike Norberto Arroyo among others ) and he displays a reasonable sense of patience. He rates to win, like today, when given the opportunity.

asudevil · #44 03-01-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

So? Pino can ride alright, no one really said he can't. Certainly a lot of chest thumping here today. The thread was talking about a specific ride, not every single ride.

One ride??? The call was him for him to leave the state....There's no difference between the Aqueduct inner and Laurel, none!

#45 03-01-2008, 11:27 PM

Speaking of chest thumping...

I thought Taylor Hole's ride on Wayoutsidethebox was solid. He didn't panic and just let the horse run his race. A novel concept these days.

The Bid · #46 03-01-2008, 11:28 PM

Norberto is a Kamikaze.

VOL JACK · #47 03-01-2008, 11:35 PM

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Norberto is a Kamikaze.

Love watching him and Coa hook up. They just need swords and shields.

The Bid · #48 03-01-2008, 11:38 PM

Its like Medieval Times with wagering

NoLuvForPletch · #49 03-02-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by asudevil

Did today change your mind?

Okay, he can stay. Is that what you wanted me to say?

But seriously, I'm pretty sure ANYBODY would have won the Stymie today aboard Malibu Moonshine. The horse was too slow to keep up and can run 2 miles if he wanted to. The other two horse were done after 3/4's. I thought he'd win by 10 when they turned for home. You can't seriously think that ride was some kind of genius on his part?

And by the way, in case you didn't see the races, his ride on AJ Kids was a thing of beauty, being 6 wide on the turn. If he got caught I'm sure you wouldn't be asking me these questions.

And he almost got taken down on Lee Stewart with some savy left handed whip action nearing the wire as his horse drifted out pretty good.

blackthroatedwind · #50 03-02-2008, 10:33 AM

He wasn't six wide on the turn with AJ's Kids. He was two wide for most of the turn and angled four wide late on the turn and was forced/bumped out wider into the stretch. I thought he rode that horse fine.

I also think he should have been DQ'd in the first race.

NoLuvForPletch · #51 03-02-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He wasn't six wide on the turn with AJ's Kids. He was two wide for most of the turn and angled four wide late on the turn and was forced/bumped out wider into the stretch. I thought he rode that horse fine.

I also think he should have been DQ'd in the first race.

Don't really want to argue with YOU, but he looks like he's about 5 wide when they get to the 5/16ths pole, then gets bumped wider as they approach the quarter pole. Of course, I'm not in a blimp over top of them so there is really no way to see.

He won, so it's really a non issue I guess...

PSH · #52 03-02-2008, 11:45 AM

I also think he should have been DQ'd in the first race.[/quote]

I could not believe they kept him up and there was also no inquiry by the stewarts. Jockey claim of foul and they kept him up. Glad they did as it did help me out in the DD....

Makes you wonder how they keep a horse like that up and take down some of the ones that they do...

asudevil · #53 03-03-2008, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

My gut tells me the call was made in jest, but whatever. While Aqueduct is a joke right now, there is a big difference between Aqueduct and Laurel. As BTW just said, Pino is a pro and a pro understands how to ride a track that can be very biased like the Aqueduct Inner. Day in and day out he is probably making the second fewest mistakes out there right now after Dominguez. he's riding for some winning barns (Contessa, Jacobson) and he knows his way to the winners circle. He would have a hard time riding in NY after the winter though.

Agree with the fact that he would have a hard time come spring....Look, he's a hard working, "bring the lunch-box to work" type jock. He's been doing the same thing in MD/DE day in and day out for about 25 years....Outside of Dominguez, there's no real star quality at the meet.

blackthroatedwind · #54 03-03-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by asudevil

Outside of Dominguez, there's no real star quality at the meet.

Funny, I noticed that as well.

NoLuvForPletch · #55 03-05-2008, 02:05 PM

Okay, he has to pack up and leave now...

Did he have a wager on Levine's horse in the 3rd today? He spent an awful long time looking for him after strangling the crap out of Ain't No Saint.

What in the PP's gave him the notion that he should be pressing the pace with this horse?

And once he was commited, just go...

blackthroatedwind · #56 03-05-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Okay, he has to pack up and leave now...

Did he have a wager on Levine's horse in the 3rd today? He spent an awful long time looking for him after strangling the crap out of Ain't No Saint.

What in the PP's gave him the notion that he should be pressing the pace with this horse?

And once he was commited, just go...

Just go? They went 44 4/5....how fast was he going to go?

The speeds actually scratched out of the race and if he had let the new Dutrow set his own pace he would not have won.

The bottom line is he gave the horse the best chance it had given the circumstances and lost. The winner got a perfect trip and is probably a better horse.

You're nitpicking.

NoLuvForPletch · #57 03-05-2008, 02:22 PM

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Just go? They went 44 4/5....how fast was he going to go?

The speeds actually scratched out of the race and if he had let the new Dutrow set his own pace he would not have won.

The bottom line is he gave the horse the best chance it had given the circumstances and lost. The winner got a perfect trip and is probably a better horse.

You're nitpicking.

You don't think his best chance once he found himself on the lead was to go? He had him wrapped pretty good for that middle quarter.

blackthroatedwind · #58 03-05-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

You don't think his best chance once he found himself on the lead was to go? He had him wrapped pretty good for that middle quarter.

I think he rode him fine. And, no, I doubt he could have suddenly spurted away. And, even if that was possible, it wouldn't have helped his chances.

I just realized he is riding the horse I unloaded on in the 4th. I will surely return after the race to tell you he is the worst rider in history.

blackthroatedwind · #59 03-05-2008, 02:30 PM

That was a clever ride.

At least he didn't hold him the whole way so now I can get 7:5 next time he runs.

Talk about giving yourself no chance.