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Old 07-24-2006, 05:57 PM
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if he gets enough points to make the bcc, he could do some damage there. he trains and lives at CD!
I agree, Perfect Drift is a very good horse. Is nearly a lock to run 2nd/3rd and I'd go as far as to guarantee that he hits the board in the Classic. Even at seven he still runs like a young horse and if he stays healthy he should earn $1 million + this year easy. He's that good and dependable. I just dont think that he wants to win and he has done little to prove otherwise. His move in the Foster was pretty awesome catapulting on the outside but when he gets alone the pack mentality kicks in and he doesnt seem to like running alone. No big deal - its an instinct!
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Old 07-24-2006, 05:59 PM
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if he gets enough points to make the bcc, he could do some damage there. he trains and lives at CD!
i agree im not so much concerned about lava man or invasor as i am flower alley, drift will run another big one in the bcc
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:03 PM
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he has to have the POINTS to get in, or wait to see if the panel picks him as one of the 7.

he needs the win in the wash park , and a win or place in the PC to get the points.
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:04 PM
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i agree im not so much concerned about lava man or invasor as i am flower alley, drift will run another big one in the bcc
he trains at churchills trackside and not at cd , but he clearly runs well at cd so not a bg problem good part is he gets a good nights rest in his own stall and a quick jaunt to the track
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:07 PM
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he has to have the POINTS to get in, or wait to see if the panel picks him as one of the 7.

he needs the win in the wash park , and a win or place in the PC to get the points.
he should, fingers crossed never know in this game make it with points, he can still win the hawthorne gold cup also, otherwise yeah he'll be picked you can bet your hoouse on that lol
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:19 PM
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I was agreeing with you. I said Perfect Drift is far superior to Funny Cide. As for no heart to win - yeah he won ONCE last year against junk and tell yourself he couldnt see Seek Gold yada yada yada. Guidry was all over him - at least 20 whips - and he just wanted to be with the pack. Same goes for his loss to Roses in May in the Whitney two years ago. He just doesnt want to win - pack mentality like a lot of horses have - its an animal instinct not wanting to be away from the pack and he doesnt see himself as the alpha male. Settle down.
i understand the pack concept and somewhat agree but i think there is still maybe 1 or hopefully 2 more grade 1's in it for him i believe he is that good yet. you have to admit that the foster should have been another grade 1 for him and that was not pack mentality at all but just bad racing luck. agree or disagree about that race?
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:24 PM
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I agree, Perfect Drift is a very good horse. Is nearly a lock to run 2nd/3rd and I'd go as far as to guarantee that he hits the board in the Classic. Even at seven he still runs like a young horse and if he stays healthy he should earn $1 million + this year easy. He's that good and dependable. I just dont think that he wants to win and he has done little to prove otherwise. His move in the Foster was pretty awesome catapulting on the outside but when he gets alone the pack mentality kicks in and he doesnt seem to like running alone. No big deal - its an instinct!
and mister borel admitted he knew better then to bring his horse up near him , that old heart of drifts woulda kicked in lol
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:28 PM
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i understand the pack concept and somewhat agree but i think there is still maybe 1 or hopefully 2 more grade 1's in it for him i believe he is that good yet. you have to admit that the foster should have been another grade 1 for him and that was not pack mentality at all but just bad racing luck. agree or disagree about that race?
I think it sucks anytime you get nipped by Seek Gold at the wire because Perfect Drift is far superior. I also think that Guidry was all out on Perfect Drift, but neither saw Seek Gold until much too late. Would he have won if he had seen Seek Gold earlier, who knows? Is he the better horse? Without a doubt. I also think that he has some more wins in him, but Guidry is going to need to give him the perfect ride. If he gets him up with an eighth or even sixteenth to go, Drift will start looking around and that's not a good thing. He needs to get him up right at the wire and with the perfect ride, he can do great things!
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:38 PM
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I think it sucks anytime you get nipped by Seek Gold at the wire because Perfect Drift is far superior. I also think that Guidry was all out on Perfect Drift, but neither saw Seek Gold until much too late. Would he have won if he had seen Seek Gold earlier, who knows? Is he the better horse? Without a doubt. I also think that he has some more wins in him, but Guidry is going to need to give him the perfect ride. If he gets him up with an eighth or even sixteenth to go, Drift will start looking around and that's not a good thing. He needs to get him up right at the wire and with the perfect ride, he can do great things!
that i agree with you 100% with saturday, he does need the perfect ride , i say he went to the whip to early in the foster keep him as close as you can stalk , swing wide cause he hates being inside, sit and wait a little longer then the top of the stretch to ask him and i think good things will happen sixteenth pole or there abouts, but i agree with you above
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:41 PM
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that i agree with you 100% with saturday, he does need the perfect ride , i say he went to the whip to early in the foster keep him as close as you can stalk , swing wide cause he hates being inside, sit and wait a little longer then the top of the stretch to ask him and i think good things will happen sixteenth pole or there abouts, but i agree with you above
perfect rides in grade 1 company that is and i luv guidry on board i think they will figure things out together as time goes on
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:43 PM
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i think plain and simple pat thought he had the best horse that day and he did and thought-no worrys- and let his guard down . he got him beat but im not like other drift fans and go on a pat day hateing spree , i like pat one of my favs but he plain and simply took the race for granted
You're right, he probably did let down a little. I see it all the time from riders who feel going into the race that they can't lose. Sometimes they get a wake-up call at the wire and its too late.

Pat Day was one of my favorites on a horse, in his day he was brilliant, like poetry some of his rides.
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:48 PM
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You're right, he probably did let down a little. I see it all the time from riders who feel going into the race that they can't lose. Sometimes they get a wake-up call at the wire and its too late.

Pat Day was one of my favorites on a horse, in his day he was brilliant, like poetry some of his rides.
same here jim going back to when i was a kid at old arlington , pat was my fav when he rode the chicago circut
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