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Old 04-20-2008, 12:24 AM
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Another big effort out of Tomcito again today.
Totally flatulent effort ... And yes I was disappointed ...
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:39 AM
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Another big effort out of Tomcito again today.
I was at Kee today, and he looked pretty good in the paddock, although like a turf horse to my eyes. The connections were very excited before the race. I saw them leaving after the day was over, the yellow Tomicito hats no longer in strong evidence. That might be it for that dream.

Mott's horse looked great in the paddock, eager to have at it, professional, and seems to look like a horse on the upswing, with improvement left.

I think Baffert was himself surprised.

Everybody else looked pretty unimpressive to me, actually. I went only to go to the paddock and see the horses, and I was disappointed with much of what I saw in person. Weird year. It's like they are 2 months behind, developmentally (small, not muscled/impressive) - they didn't look like horses two weeks from the Derby. Of course, this is the B team.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:31 AM
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Tomshito

Mumtaz, maybe you looked at Tomshitos pony. Hes certainly not a good looking horse, nor a good horse.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:47 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised to see him running for 15000 a year from now.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:49 AM
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Why wait a year
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:04 AM
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There's still races to be won in Peru! Maybe a shot at the Belmont. If none in this crop wants 10f, who's gonna want 12?
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:20 AM
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How Tomcito was made a favorite in that race, at 8.5 with the finish where it was going to be, is yet another great mystery of this year's preps.
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:26 AM
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If he won impressively yesterday he may have been relatively short odds in the derby too.
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:53 AM
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Tomshito had a 1 in a million chance to win, however when PG1985 came with his endorsement it sealed his fate. At that point the connections should have been looking to scratch.

How he went off as chalk defies logic
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Old 04-20-2008, 11:22 AM
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Tomshito

Mumtaz, maybe you looked at Tomshitos pony. Hes certainly not a good looking horse, nor a good horse.
Um ... let's rephrase and say, "muscled, shiny, tucked"
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Old 04-20-2008, 11:33 AM
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Why wait a year
Im sure that the next time he wins, most of one todays critics, will be given excuses and talking about how great this horse is.
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Old 04-20-2008, 11:42 AM
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Hes not a good horse.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:19 PM
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If he won impressively yesterday he may have been relatively short odds in the derby too.
If he won by 5 he'd still be a big question mark because the Lexington was run on Polytrack, which in no way resembles real dirt. Until Churchill switches to synthetic, unproven dirt horses who win these Kee preps (i.e. Momba and Pletcher's horse who won the Lexington; I can't even remember his name) must be downgraded.
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Old 04-20-2008, 07:15 PM
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Hes not a good horse.
Yeah, I think he was ready, and fired, and we pretty much saw his best.
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Old 04-20-2008, 07:36 PM
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If he won by 5 he'd still be a big question mark because the Lexington was run on Polytrack, which in no way resembles real dirt. Until Churchill switches to synthetic, unproven dirt horses who win these Kee preps (i.e. Momba and Pletcher's horse who won the Lexington; I can't even remember his name) must be downgraded.
I didn't say he deserved to be! Someone out there is going to actually bet on Cowboy Cal too! Monba did win a race on Churchill dirt.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:09 PM
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If he won by 5 he'd still be a big question mark because the Lexington was run on Polytrack, which in no way resembles real dirt. Until Churchill switches to synthetic, unproven dirt horses who win these Kee preps (i.e. Momba and Pletcher's horse who won the Lexington; I can't even remember his name) must be downgraded.
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I find it funny that Pyro gets a pass for running like shiat on polytrack, but this horse doesn't.
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:04 AM
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I find it funny that Pyro gets a pass for running like shiat on polytrack, but this horse doesn't.
Pyro ran better beforehand. . .
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:07 AM
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Pyro ran better beforehand. . .
While I don't care for Tomcito, I would still give him a pass on the polycrap. I agree with Steve too in that 8.5 furlongs just isn't long enough for this horse.
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:08 AM
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Pyro ran better beforehand. . .
exactly, Pyro proved that he can race at the top level in America, Tomcito has not and yet still gets the hype.
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