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Old 05-26-2008, 07:14 PM
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It would be interesting to see Commentator, Big Brown and Curlin go at it. Either Commentator would get loose on the lead and run away or Big Brown would go with him setting it up for Curlin.

Too bad the BCC is on the polytrack. NYRA needs to put up $5m for the Jockey Club Gold Cup. Tie it into a bonus if a horse wins the JCGC and BCC.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:20 PM
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commentator ran huge in defeat.. hope he comes out of it well...
devine park is very good right now..congrats to chuck for picking this out at the sale........
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:07 PM
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The final 1/4 in the Met Mile was 27.30 ...

The final 1/4 in the 7th race, a one mile pace at the Meadowlands harness track today was 27.80 and the horse who won that race was 40/1.

Makes you wonder how the great Lord Snowdon didn't win.
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:19 PM
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The final 1/4 in the Met Mile was 27.30 ...

The final 1/4 in the 7th race, a one mile pace at the Meadowlands harness track today was 27.80 and the horse who won that race was 40/1.

Makes you wonder how the great Lord Snowdon didn't win.
Is that final quarter time actually right?? Seems almost impossible to be correct. DRF still has it listed as 1:09.61, 1:36.91.
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:21 PM
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It's correct. Here's the chart with the splits.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:25 PM
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Outside of the Whitney, this was probably Commentator's best race. At least he wasn't facing NY breds or 40K claiming types. That said, this wasn't the strongest edition of the Met Mile.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:35 PM
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Outside of the Whitney, this was probably Commentator's best race. At least he wasn't facing NY breds or 40K claiming types. That said, this wasn't the strongest edition of the Met Mile.
I don't think this race was any better than his third in the Tom Fool last year.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:42 PM
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I was foolish in failing to read through the pp's that First Defence would be going balls out from the gate. Commentator needed an easy first quarter and he did not get that today. I told a few people the race would be decided in the first two furlongs. 22.48 was not what the first quarter I anticpated. The second quarter which was run in 22.04 was too much for Commentator to sustain a strong stretch run.

Commentator ran his eye balls out and I think it's a great thing to see a 7 year old run a race like he did. At least a decent horse in Devine Park was the one who benefitted from the fast early fractions.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:47 PM
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Funny coming from the king of humility. I also kind of find it interesting that you of all people, someone it's obvious does not bet giving someone else crap about betting. What's the last good call you had? I'm not kidding. What is the last horse that you liked before a race that won? Please pull it up. That's what helps people. Novel idea.
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Old 05-27-2008, 10:46 AM
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Divine Park 109
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Old 05-27-2008, 10:56 AM
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Divine Park 109
Unless they split the variant, this number is going to be too high. That gives Manteca in the 3rd about a 103, and Alexandros a 94.

This does, however, fit with the # Beyer had for Emotival in Argentina.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:14 AM
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Unless they split the variant, this number is going to be too high. That gives Manteca in the 3rd about a 103, and Alexandros a 94.

This does, however, fit with the # Beyer had for Emotival in Argentina.
Yeah, I can't believe this nonsense. "That's too low for the Met".. "Raise it".. "Wait, that's too high for Manteca".. "Uh, lower it"..

So the track started out slow, somehow got faster in between the second and third races, then got slow again?
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:52 AM
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Yeah, I can't believe this nonsense. "That's too low for the Met".. "Raise it".. "Wait, that's too high for Manteca".. "Uh, lower it"..

So the track started out slow, somehow got faster in between the second and third races, then got slow again?
Agreed... if the number sucked, the number sucked. It's certainly reasonable to be bad, as nobody did any running late, obviously. Why sugarcoat it?
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Old 05-27-2008, 12:25 PM
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Well there were big gaps between the dirt races. . .
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:24 PM
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The 109 was for the first 6 furlongs. Beyer split the variant on the last quarter.

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Old 05-27-2008, 02:49 PM
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It's correct. Here's the chart with the splits.
Cool chart, to me looking at that the slowish third quarter really helped Divine Park get back into it, and then the complete crawl at home let him win.
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:57 PM
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Second slowest running in the past 60 years.
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:09 PM
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Well there were big gaps between the dirt races. . .
I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but they ran the second and third races back to back, on dirt at a mile. I'd be interested to see what BSF's those races got. Manteca ran 2.76 seconds faster than Emotival, which should give him a way bigger figure. If those two are in line with the Met, then Manteca should get around a 103 and Emotival about a 70 or so, no?

It depends on what you do with the sixth. I don't know how you'd translate that 1:20.57 to a mile, but the winning BSF of that race should've been high 50's/low 60's.
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:20 PM
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Considering First Defence's immense talent I can't understand how the race got below a 130.
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:21 PM
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It's a shame that Commentator is probably going to get loose, because First Defence and Divine Park are just as good, if not better than him.

I just love this post.
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