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Old 01-19-2009, 08:41 PM
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For GBbob for starting the thread......

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Old 01-19-2009, 08:51 PM
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The "private sector" not only wants better cures for cancer, ruptured ACL's, etc., the private sector is the primary scientific researcher here.

not the same
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Old 01-19-2009, 08:57 PM
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not the same
The private sector I associate with wants it.
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:00 PM
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The private sector I associate with wants it.
the government has not banned embryonic stem cell research they just haven't paid for it.

I thought hte private sector didn't belive in that particular kind of stem cell research.

either way I don't think the government should pay for it
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:04 PM
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I did it...if he wants to gay bash he's in the wrong place.
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:33 PM
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When someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night, armed, just beg for your life in a very soft and tearful voice.

Yeah that gun control is a real a great idea...
if someone strafes my house in the middle of the night and i don't have an anti-aircraft emplacement, should i do the same?

i'm not really sure how i feel about gun control but i love the paranoid fantasy as justification for your opinion. armed gangs roaming your neighborhood?
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:45 PM
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Well....I'll open myself up to the daggers. Before the economy tanked and since Irag was always a no brainer...Here was my wish list over the next 4-8 years...in no particular order..

* Ban semi-automatic weapons and no concealed carry disagree, just enforce the gun laws already on the books.
* Ban the Death Penalty disagree, stop all the appeals that drag on for 15-20 years. kill'em, cremate'm and stop wasting the money.
* Full rights for Gays to marry agree
* Simplify the tax code agree
* No offshore drilling disagree, less dependence on foreign oil and better efficiency on what we are using
* Stem Cell research at further levels agree, if it will help people in the future
* Less farm subsidies unless warranted agree, make the adjustments and stop the abuse.
* Revise "No Child Left Behind" to reasonable standards
* Revisit NAFTA agree and make corrections
* NASA...what does it mean?
* Environment, Environment, Environment
i'd like to see big welfare reform. it will never happen under this administration. my fear this administration gives them even more.

This should be fun..
i usually try and keep my mouth shut in here.
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:48 PM
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Actually, I have pressure on me to get a gun. The dogs chased a guy out of the backyard 3 weeks ago. Have they done studies on how many people have killed a family member versus killed an actual intruder? Guns are pretty unforgiving.
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:00 PM
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Actually, I have pressure on me to get a gun. The dogs chased a guy out of the backyard 3 weeks ago. Have they done studies on how many people have killed a family member versus killed an actual intruder? Guns are pretty unforgiving.
statistically, you're far more likely to kill someone you know or yourself with a gun over someone breaking into your house.

but you need to weigh that against whatever level of irrational paranoia you have about armed stranger's bursting through your door.
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:02 PM
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My wife won't let me get a gun. The best I can hope for is one of those old style credit card swipers. I figure any burglar coming up my steps that hears that noise will sh*t their pants and run.
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:14 PM
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stop all the appeals that drag on for 15-20 years. kill'em, cremate'm and stop wasting the money.
There was a guy awhile ago here in Illinois named Anthony Porter. He was on death row for something like 15 years. Then, two days before he was scheduled to be executed, his lawyers won some sort of stay of execution after finally uncovering some kind of new evidence. Death penalty advocates moaned about the never ending appeals process and the fact that a new investigation was being launched.
Later on, it turned out that Porter was found to be innocent. Some other guy confessed to the crime and everything.

Are you saying it would be better if Porter had simply been executed right away....before nasty things like the actual facts of the case got involved?
And by the way, Porter is just one of many: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/inno...reed-death-row

Some of the interesting stuff is at the bottom:
Average number of years between being sentenced to death and exoneration: 9.5 years
Number of cases in which DNA played a substantial factor in establishing innocence: 17


It makes me wonder how many people were executed for crimes they didn't do in the era BEFORE DNA testing, and how many might be executed now, before some future technology is developed that we don't yet know about.
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:38 PM
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There was a guy awhile ago here in Illinois named Anthony Porter. He was on death row for something like 15 years. Then, two days before he was scheduled to be executed, his lawyers won some sort of stay of execution after finally uncovering some kind of new evidence. Death penalty advocates moaned about the never ending appeals process and the fact that a new investigation was being launched.
Later on, it turned out that Porter was found to be innocent. Some other guy confessed to the crime and everything.

Are you saying it would be better if Porter had simply been executed right away....before nasty things like the actual facts of the case got involved?
And by the way, Porter is just one of many: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/inno...reed-death-row

Some of the interesting stuff is at the bottom:
Average number of years between being sentenced to death and exoneration: 9.5 years
Number of cases in which DNA played a substantial factor in establishing innocence: 17


It makes me wonder how many people were executed for crimes they didn't do in the era BEFORE DNA testing, and how many might be executed now, before some future technology is developed that we don't yet know about.
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:09 PM
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statistically, you're far more likely to kill someone you know or yourself with a gun over someone breaking into your house.

but you need to weigh that against whatever level of irrational paranoia you have about armed stranger's bursting through your door.
No, I am not the one who wants to get it. I actually trust my dogs enough. They adore me( I feed them.) I would maybe prefer to get one more larger dog, or a tazer. Black Rage is for real. I'm not crazy about the lethal option being around here.
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:20 PM
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No, I am not the one who wants to get it. I actually trust my dogs enough. They adore me( I feed them.) I would maybe prefer to get one more larger dog, or a tazer. Black Rage is for real. I'm not crazy about the lethal option being around here.
dogs are a great option but just remember they'll do nothing about the threat of mole people tunneling into your bedroom.

when that happens all you can do is beg for your life in a soft and tearful voice unless you have a gun.
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Old 01-20-2009, 06:20 AM
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* Ban semi-automatic weapons and no concealed carry.
Hitler would agree. I strongly DISAGREE

* Ban the Death Penalty
What crime could a child commit to earn the death penalty? BAN ABORTION first

* Full rights for Gays to marry
Full rights for Gays to Marry what?

* Simplify the tax code*
Bad for horse racing The Breck Girl already got it in a tax shelter anyway. How about cut spending?

* No offshore drilling - When congress quits flying around in jets DISAGREE

* Stem Cell research at further levels - Private sector doesn't believe in it DISAGREE

* Less farm subsidies unless warrented - What? Then how can the world bank give them loans guaranteed with my money to crappy ass 3rd world countries that buy US grain? ok, no Wind Farm Subsidies

* Revise "No Child Left Behind" to reasonable standards - Privatize the school system let parents pay

* Revisit NAFTA - NAFTA that was passed by a demChiComCrimocRat congress and sign by x-42

* NASA...what does it mean? National Aeronautics and Space Administration

* Environment, Environment, Environment - do you mean Gerbil Worming? It's cyclical and an excuse to use what is known as Green Communism US is #1 on the enviroment - try going after China , mexico and India or some other crap country
Dude when are you running? I'd vote for you in a heartbeat.
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I have a question for the ignorant bigot. What exactly have gays done to deserve to be killed? I mean there's hate and then there's thinking people should be dead for their sexual preference. Kind of sad that someone thinks like that in 2009.
It would be nice to one day live in a world (or at least a country) where everyone could get along, and people could look past differences and love each other for who you are!
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Excellent piece by, yes, Cal Thomas

http://www.calthomas.com/index.php?news=2489
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Excellent piece by, yes, Cal Thomas

http://www.calthomas.com/index.php?news=2489
It was good, especially this part;

"Here’s another suggestion: focus less on ideology and more on how people can become independent of government. For too long, your party has emphasized misery, failure and government dependency instead of success, fulfillment and self-sufficiency. By spotlighting people who move from dependence to independence, you model and encourage achievement".
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Old 01-20-2009, 09:41 AM
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It was good, especially this part;

"Here’s another suggestion: focus less on ideology and more on how people can become independent of government. For too long, your party has emphasized misery, failure and government dependency instead of success, fulfillment and self-sufficiency. By spotlighting people who move from dependence to independence, you model and encourage achievement".
That's an opinion he had to include so it wouldn't be published in next month's Rolling Stone
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Excellent piece by, yes, Cal Thomas

http://www.calthomas.com/index.php?news=2489
I totally agree. very well written, especially the last paragraph.

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