Aqu 7th: why no refund on the #10?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

didn't find the post but I know I read one by you that said something like... he works for NYRA so he has no cred.

you're not going to find it , cuse i never said he had no credibilty

you got the wrong guy buddy

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

where in any of my posts do i mention a credibility issue, go back and look at the posts and show me where i am questioning his credibiliy

andy is great , he works hard as anyone in the game, he has knowledge of the game far greater than most, but the fact remains he is a NYRA employee and any opinion he gives on here (on a nyra issue)brings an inherent conflict of interest

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by gales0678

i got what he is saying the #3 was lower in the exotic pools that what he was in the win pool

and if you watch the race and don't think that a horse getting stuck in the gate , a horse ending up in the parking lot after blowing a routine turn and exotic payouts comng back short raise red flags then i guess red flags should never be raised

andy is great , he works hard as anyone in the game, he has knowledge of the game far greater than most, but the fact remains he is a NYRA employee and any opinion he gives on here (on a nyra issue)brings an inherent conflict of interest

yeah, this is completely different then saying he has no credibility

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

andy is great , he works hard as anyone in the game, he has knowledge of the game far greater than most, but the fact remains he is a NYRA employee and any opinion he gives on here (on a nyra issue)brings an inherent conflict of interest

and explain to me how my statement is not a fact.

explain to me how my statement calls him a liar or someone with no credibilty

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

i watched the reply today

what befuddles me even more is what dominguez does

a speed horse goes to dead last , and then circles the whole field going 5W ,

then when castro goes by him in the lane , ramon then goes to the whip after he is already gone , then eases up on the horse when he relaizes he can't win , i would guess it had to be his worst ride of the day

What are you talking about (again), Dominguez's horse wasn't a speed horse. In 5 career starts he has never had the lead at the half mile pole.
What's the next conspiricy going to be? There was a guy by the starting gate in a white suit that distracted the two from going to the lead, caused the one's rein to break and the ten to sit in the gate?
Please get off the race already.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

What are you talking about (again), Dominguez's horse wasn't a speed horse. In 5 career starts he has never had the lead at the half mile pole.
What's the next conspiricy going to be? There was a guy by the starting gate in a white suit that distracted the two from going to the lead, caused the one's rein to break and the ten to sit in the gate?
Please get off the race already.

so he was supposed to be dead last in the 1st turn then go 5 wide on the bacstretch

maybe he wasn't supposed to be on the lead but he should have been just off the pace chasing and saving gound and on the rail at the least

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

and explain to me how my statement is not a fact.

explain to me how my statement calls him a liar or someone with no credibilty

oh boy

you blew off his answer because you said he had a conflict of interest, thus suggesting his answer was tainted due to the fact he is a nyra employee. but if you want to attempt to say that you weren't questioning his abilities to give an unbiased answer, while saying exactly that, hey-more power to you.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

oh boy

you blew off his answer because you said he had a conflict of interest, thus suggesting his answer was tainted due to the fact he is a nyra employee. but if you want to attempt to say that you weren't questioning his abilities to give an unbiased answer, while saying exactly that, hey-more power to you.

we all can have an opinion , me ,the guys in the otb , the guy from the ny post , andy , anyone

but explain to me how there is no conflict of interest with andy's opinion on any nyra issue? he going to get some calls/issues wrong , and going to get some right. being wrong on a issue doesn't make him a liar or someone with no credibility , you are now triyng to fit my words to how you want them to read

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

so he was supposed to be dead last in the 1st turn then go 5 wide on the bacstretch

maybe he wasn't supposed to be on the lead but he should have been just off the pace chasing and saving gound and on the rail at the least

Personally I don't think it was a bad ride. The horse has proved that he could run from behind. I'm not sure if there was a bias yesterday, but the few races I saw it seemed like horses were coming from behind. Not to mention that you had the leading jock riding who has been on fire lately. I'm not saying that he can't give a bad ride, but he had that horse in a spot where he could have won the race. Also, check out his last race on the inner, he came from way out of it.
Forget about the trip, is it just possible that the horse was short for his first race in eight months. Or is he not allowed to be a race short because he was sent off at 3-5?
I just don't know what you are trying to prove. You have brought up about four issues from this race and have been way off base on all of them.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

we all can have an opinion , me ,the guys in the otb , the guy from the ny post , andy , anyone

but explain to me how there is no conflict of interest with andy's opinion on any nyra issue? he going to get some calls/issues wrong , and going to get some right. being wrong on a issue doesn't make him a liar or someone with no credibility , you are now triyng to fit my words to how you want them to read

you're exactly right on that. but you chose to go further-rather than saying hey, we have a difference of opinion, you chose to bring up inherent conflicts-you chose to make it more than just someone giving their POV. and then we wonder why folks like andy disappear for weeks at a time. people ask them for guidance, and then give them grief when they give it.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by gales0678

and explain to me how my statement is not a fact.

explain to me how my statement calls him a liar or someone with no credibilty

claiming he has a conflict of interest implies that he couldn't agree with you because that would be frowned upon by the NYRA.

I know.. it all depends on what the menaing of is
is

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Personally I don't think it was a bad ride. The horse has proved that he could run from behind. I'm not sure if there was a bias yesterday, but the few races I saw it seemed like horses were coming from behind. Not to mention that you had the leading jock riding who has been on fire lately. I'm not saying that he can't give a bad ride, but he had that horse in a spot where he could have won the race. Also, check out his last race on the inner, he came from way out of it.
Forget about the trip, is it just possible that the horse was short for his first race in eight months. Or is he not allowed to be a race short because he was sent off at 3-5?
I just don't know what you are trying to prove. You have brought up about four issues from this race and have been way off base on all of them.

obvious bet against at 3/5. good grief

what a maroon...

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it's all George Bush's fault

[Bobby Fischer]

Why no refund on This Ones For Phil ?

... I didn't get the pace scenario I wanted