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The blog contained a piece written by an AP writer and I posted another link to the same story afterwards. Wasnt the actual plan written by the administrations economists enough for you? 
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06-11-2009, 10:30 AM
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Please spare me your ridiclousness. Please open the link, look who wrote the paper and look at the chart on page 5. You see the little line that never rises above 8%??? The problem with so many of you apologists is that you want to get caught up in minutia instead of the topic at hand. Once again...
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06-12-2009, 07:53 AM
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Reagan deserves about as much credit for events that transpired in Berlin and Moscow during his administration as Rutherford B. Hayes deserves for the fact that the light bulb happened to be invented during his administration.
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06-12-2009, 09:05 AM
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THis is just not true and you have proven it. There are plenty of articles questioning the stimulus package, health care, you name it. I know you have read them. Even the great devil, the NY Times, "prints" them. NPR has a guest almost everyday the past week voicing concern, and pointing out details of why the stimulus plan will not work. People are extremely skeptical about this administration's fiscal methods. Even his own party has already started to cut the meat out of the Carbon emissions plan, so much so that the Democrats are alienating the environmental lobby. The reason he is being given a "pass" is that there is NO UNIFIED alternative. The Republicans have done a horrible job of presenting their own coherent recipe for recovery. They just know what won't work. Republicans basically have no idea what will work. And thats understandable, we are in a very difficult mess. Obama has used this financial crisis as an opening to try some extremely bold moves. He obviously thinks there are some things the government should take on, and some things that the government can do well, all of which makes Republicans are very nervous because the government clearly does nothing well. And should just stay the hell out of everything. The country can run itself... Somalia has done such a dandy job without a government.
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Of course they are not your beloved FOX news. But take a look at the articles and listen. They present some very good articles/guests that present highly critical views with coherent explainations. Last edited by pgardn : 06-12-2009 at 10:04 AM.
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Their economic systems worked so well that Reagan had to drive them to bankruptcy with the Star War program... This is clearly the reason Communists countries have a difficult time. If they stay with the tried an true ecomonic methods (not the Chinese version of Capitalism) they will survive forever. It takes a man like Reagan to force these strong systems into finacial ruin. Look what Bush and Cheney have done to North Korea. North Korea was never in trouble until Bush/Cheney. The people were oh so healthy and happy until Bush forced their hand.
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06-12-2009, 01:18 PM
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There are plenty of articles questioning the stimulus package, health care, you name it. I know you have read them. Even the great devil, the NY Times, "prints" them. NPR has a guest almost everyday the past week voicing concern, and pointing out details of why the stimulus plan will not work. Uh here? The press has been overwhelmingly supportive of Obama despite obvious occasions that they would have jumped all over had someone else been in charge. Why anyone disputes this especially with the results of the recent Pew study on the subject is beyond me. And the Fox news thing is so overdone that it is just stupid. Is that the only thing that you can fire back at a Conservative? It is telling that people are unwilling to examine the issues without resorting to the same old tired crap.
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CARTER: So the persecution of the Palestinians now, under the occupying territories—under the occupation forces—is one of the worst examples of human rights deprivation that I know. And I think it‘s— SHUSTER: Even worse, though, than a place like Rwanda? CARTER: Yes. I think—yes. You mean, now? SHUSTER: Yes. CARTER: Yes. SHUSTER: The oppression now of the Israelis—of the Palestinians by the Israelis is worse than the situation in Africa like the oppression of Rwanda and the civil war? CARTER: I‘m not going back into ancient history about Rwanda, but right now, the persecution of the Palestinians is one of the worst examples of human rights abuse I know, because the Palestinians— SHUSTER: You‘re talking about right now, you‘re not talking about say, a few years ago. CARTER: I‘m not talking about ancient history, no. SHUSTER: Rwanda wasn‘t ancient history; it was just a few years ago. CARTER: You can talk about Rwanda if you want to. I want to talk about Palestine. What is being done to the Palestinians now is horrendous in their own territory, by the occupying powers, which is Israel. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15951792/ I know right-wing msnbc
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You might also mention Reagan putting up 200 marines in a hotel in Lebanon as a show of force in the region against the advice of a number of generals. 200 marines died in that hotel. The hostage situation in Iran was bad but we did not lose 200 good people in one swift action. Iran was going to crumble. The writing was on the wall before Carter. Carter did not help the situation however. The Shah just fell faster than under Carter than he would have anyway.
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Or he says he is black. But overwhelming supportive of his economic policies... no frggn way. The press is interviewing numerous economists and bankers etc... that are all pointing out what they think to be huge flaws. Almost everyday. And its easy because Obama is moving at lightning speed. Car companies, banks, carbon emission standards, so much is taking place... its all over. Including criticism. If you think the average Joe in the US is just fine okdokie with all these new things being rushed through I dont think you are reading the public or the press that I am reading. They clearly are fawning over him and family personally. But NOT his economic policies.
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