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Old 08-12-2009, 12:28 PM
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Any decent mares at Toga?
Maybe Anabaa's Creation, Dawn After Dawn or Briecat could come by?

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Old 08-12-2009, 12:29 PM
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That's a fearsome trio right there.
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:19 PM
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Hollywood Story went on a veritable world tour when compared to Zenyatta's career. Not particularly relevant other than that was another Sheriffs stakes-winning mare that traveled outside of SoCal at least a few times.
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Old 08-12-2009, 02:07 PM
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No one is going to pass up a G1 race for this. The match race would have to be after the BC
Don't know if I agree with that. Is Seabiscuit remembered more for the match race vs War Admiral, or for the string of stakes wins he ran off. How about the Swaps/Nashua race? Honestly I can't tell you off the top what either of them won other than the Triple Crown races. Ruffian v Foolish Pleasure is more remembered for it's tragic outcome, but still the point is that these types of events are so rare that they become part of the folklore of the game when compared to the winner of another race, Grade 1 or otherwise.
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:04 PM
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Hollywood Story went on a veritable world tour when compared to Zenyatta's career. Not particularly relevant other than that was another Sheriffs stakes-winning mare that traveled outside of SoCal at least a few times.
Hollywood Story made three atrocious appearances at the Breeders' Cup finishing 10th beaten 10 1/2 behind Ashado in 2004, 8th beaten 22 behind Pleasant Home in 2005, and 10th beaten 21 1/4 behind Round Pond in 2006.

In total, John Shirreffs has had 13 starters outside of the state of California in the past five years. Only one of those horses was victorious and a grand total of 4 of the 13 finished in the money.

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Old 08-12-2009, 03:29 PM
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Well, that one victory was something to write home about though.
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:11 PM
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RA is going to run next in the Personal Ensign.
What possible reason is there to run there instead of the Woodward? The top two finishers in the Whitney have said they will skip the race if she runs. The third place finisher has already retired. The only other interesting horse is going to the Woodbine Mile. If Rachel went in the Woodward it could wind up a match race with Dry Martini. Winning the Personal Ensign would do nothing, would be a longer distance, and could even be a tougher race. It would make no sense.
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:16 PM
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What possible reason is there to run there instead of the Woodward? The top two finishers in the Whitney have said they will skip the race if she runs. The third place finisher has already retired. The only other interesting horse is going to the Woodbine Mile. If Rachel went in the Woodward it could wind up a match race with Dry Martini. Winning the Personal Ensign would do nothing, would be a longer distance, and could even be a tougher race. It would make no sense.
That is where they (JJ) wants to run.
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:26 PM
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That is where they (JJ) wants to run.
Does his house rental run out on August 31st?
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I love this. If people want to put money up, let them.
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What possible reason is there to run there instead of the Woodward? The top two finishers in the Whitney have said they will skip the race if she runs. The third place finisher has already retired. The only other interesting horse is going to the Woodbine Mile. If Rachel went in the Woodward it could wind up a match race with Dry Martini. Winning the Personal Ensign would do nothing, would be a longer distance, and could even be a tougher race. It would make no sense.
If It's a Bird comes for the Woodward (as reported in DRF), and it's the good It's a Bird, he could make things a bit interesting on the front end.
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Hollywood Story made three atrocious appearances at the Breeders' Cup finishing 10th beaten 10 1/2 behind Ashado in 2004, 8th beaten 22 behind Pleasant Home in 2005, and 10th beaten 21 1/4 behind Round Pond in 2006.

In total, John Shirreffs has had 13 starters outside of the state of California in the past five years. Only one of those horses was victorious and a grand total of 4 of the 13 finished in the money.

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Only 1?? Tiago, Giacomo, and Zenyatta. Isn't that 3 already?
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Old 08-12-2009, 06:57 PM
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Only 1?? Tiago, Giacomo, and Zenyatta. Isn't that 3 already?
Giacomo's Derby was the only one that counted. For some reason Arkansas didn't show up on Formulator. Make it 3.

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Lol ... looks like that Formulator thingy could use a little tune-up there, NTamm1215.



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Winning the Personal Ensign would do nothing, would be a longer distance, and could even be a tougher race. It would make no sense.
Makes perfect sense to me
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lol @ the Personal Ensign showing how she can handle 10f. So she might win by only 15 instead of 20.
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:21 AM
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With only a few starts left to go this year and who knows what next year may or may not hold, the Personal Ensign would be a waste of time for us fans. Not that anyone cares.
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:41 AM
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With only a few starts left to go this year and who knows what next year may or may not hold, the Personal Ensign would be a waste of time for us fans. Not that anyone cares.

i don't agree that it would be a waste of time. different racing yields different thrills. i'd enjoy watching her in a walkover.
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