Horsey All Decade Team

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

What was behind him? Circular Quay, Great Hunter, Scat Daddy, Stormello, C P West, U D Ghetto, King of the Roxy, Skip Code, Teuflesberg, Pegasus Wind, Malt Magic, Got the Last Laugh and Principle Secret?

Real murderers' row right there..

Tons better then Big Browns Crop.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I basically agree with your point, but Circular Quay was a pretty good 2yo (not to mention the key horse for most of my big horizontal and vertical wagers that day at CD )

Im talking only 2 yr olds not moving forward, and they were all ok at 2.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I always really liked CQ as well. He certainly had one of the most talked about debut races in the history of this board (back in the days of oracle).
Found it: http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...=circular+quay

what up the oracle these days......miss that guy.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Tons better then Big Browns Crop.

Yeah that's relevant.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Tons better then Big Browns Crop.

Ummm.....okay. They are also MUCH better than the $4k claimers running in the first at Hawthorne today.....but so what?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

...said the Pot.

Nah, I didn't hate Vindy. I just thought there was a whole lot more hype to him than substance.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

2yo Female: Tempera, Storm Flag Flying, Halfbrideld, You

No love for Sweet Catomine? "You" and "Tempera" were both before I started following racing closely, so I'm not sure how they compare.

I realize Sweet Catomine's campaign wasn't that lengthy, but her BC juvy filly win was really eye-catching.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

No love for Sweet Catomine? "You" and "Tempera" were both before I started following racing closely, so I'm not sure how they compare.

I realize Sweet Catomine's campaign wasn't that lengthy, but her BC juvy filly win was really eye-catching.

good call

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Nah, I didn't hate Vindy. I just thought there was a whole lot more hype to him than substance.

Well, he was sired by Seattle Slew, so perhaps he suffered from wobbler syndrome.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Well, he was sired by Seattle Slew, so perhaps he suffered from wobbler syndrome.

Ha. Good one!

I did see IC at Vinery in 2000 though, when he was a five year old.

He was pretty much the only stallion left at the farm, as most of the others had gone south for the winter breeding season. When I asked why he didn't ship, they let me see him and he looked like he was a dying horse. They weren't too sure he was going to survive.

I doubt Slew becoming a wobbler in his old age had an effect on Vindication, but who knows, maybe you are right!

He probably really was one of the all time great 2yos.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

No love for Sweet Catomine? "You" and "Tempera" were both before I started following racing closely, so I'm not sure how they compare.

I realize Sweet Catomine's campaign wasn't that lengthy, but her BC juvy filly win was really eye-catching.

Yeah, I would have given her a thought as well. Folklore was a pretty good 2YO filly as well, not terribly fast but honest. Halfbridled to me was very strong but I can agree with Tempera being rated the best based on her CA races and the BC.

NT

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Yeah, I would have given her a thought as well. Folklore was a pretty good 2YO filly as well, not terribly fast but honest. Halfbridled to me was very strong but I can agree with Tempera being rated the best based on her CA races and the BC.

NT

I was going to say that in my opinion, Halfbridled was the dominant 2yo filly of this decade.

But then I remembered who trained Tempera, and reconsidered. I'm no fan of that trainer, but he's light years better now than he was back then.

[Patrick333]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

1st team, 2nd team, 3rd team, 4th team by division.

2yo Male: War Pass, Macho Uno, Stevie Wonderboy, Street Sense
2yo Female: Tempera, Storm Flag Flying, Halfbrideld, You
2yo Turf Male: Barbaro, Peace Rules, Interactif, Cowboy Cal
2yo Turf Female: Dreaming of Anna, J'Ray, Fantastic Filly, Riskaverse
2yo Male Sprinter: Officer, Came Home, Afleet Alex, Roman Ruler
2yo Female Sprinter: Cashier's Dream, You, Hot Dixie Chick, Gold Mover

3yo Male: Smarty Jones, Tiznow, Point Given, Bernardini
3yo Female: Rachel Alexandra, Rags To Riches, Xtra Heat, Surfside
3yo Turf Male: Kitten's Joy, Conduit, High Chaparral, Rock Of Gibraltor,
3yo Turf Female: Banks Hill, Ouija Board, Goldikova, Six Perfections
3yo Male Sprinter: Caller One, Squirtle Squirt, Lost In The Fog, Cajun Beat
3yo Female Sprinter: Xtra Heat, Indian Blessing, Madcap Escapade, Lady Tak
Older Male: Ghostzapper, Mineshaft, Medaglia D' Oro, Congaree
Older Female: Zenyatta, Azeri, Riboletta, Sightseek
Older Turf Male: Fantastic Light, Leroidesanemeaux, English Channel, Kalanisi
Older Turf Female: Ouija Board, Golden Apples, Voodoo Dancer, Intercontinental
Older Male Sprinter: Kona Gold, Midnight Lute, Swept Overboard, Fabulous Strike
Older Female Sprinter: Xtra Heat, Honest Lady, Informed Decision, Kalooken Queen


2003 was the glory year for older males for going long ... you don't realize realize quite how spectacular they were until you see what followed them up and what was just before them.

The 3-year-old males are a brutal group to rate. A good case could be made for anyone of seven or eight.

Good to see Smarty Jones getting some love.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Patrick333

Good to see Smarty Jones getting some love.

I'm shocked that it took four pages to get around to discussing DrugS's decision to rank Smarty number one among 3yo males. If Serling was still around here, it would have only taken four seconds.

Point Given would be #1 for me.

[parsixfarms]

I haven't had a chance to think about some of these "divisions," but one notable omission: Cesario in the 3YO filly turfer division.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I haven't had a chance to think about some of these "divisions," but one notable omission: Cesario in the 3YO filly turfer division.

There is really no way you can justify including her in the top 4.

Cesario's lone start here was a hugely impressive win in the American Oaks.

Melhor Ainda finished 2nd at 6/5 odds. She returned to run 3rd by a neck to Angera and than was 7th beaten 5 lengths in the Flower Bowl. She never won a Graded Stake race after.

The 3rd place finisher in that American Oaks was Singhalese..she was still elidgible for N1X alw races.

That field just doesn't compare well with the fields Banks Hill, Ouija Board, Goldikova and Six Perfections beat in Breeders Cup races.

Banks Hill demolished a field in the Breeders Cup Filly and Mare Turf by 5.5 lengths and ran a mind boggling 112 Beyer. Ouija Board absolutely toyed with the field in her 3yo Breeders Cup F and M Turf win. Goldikova and Six Perfections both beat males in the Breeders Cup Mile as a 3yo.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I'm shocked that it took four pages to get around to discussing DrugS's decision to rank Smarty number one among 3yo males. If Serling was still around here, it would have only taken four seconds.

Point Given would be #1 for me.

apopleptic would be the word used to describe him if he saw it!

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

No love for Sweet Catomine? "You" and "Tempera" were both before I started following racing closely, so I'm not sure how they compare.

I realize Sweet Catomine's campaign wasn't that lengthy, but her BC juvy filly win was really eye-catching.

Sweet Catomine was an excellent 2-year-old ... but it's impossible to rate her ahead of either Tempera, Storm Flag Flying, and Halfbrideld.

She has a case for the 4th spot.

I certainly favor You though. You ran 4 different Beyers between 97 and 107 as a 2yo filly...and raced against INCREDIBLE competition all year long.

Sweet Catomine only had a single Beyer higher than 91 as a 2yo filly .. and that was her real nice 3+ length victory in the BC Juvie Fillies over Balletto and Runway Model.

Balletto (the horse) never won another race. Balletto (the troll) used a picture of a Runway Model and called it herself in her fine trolling of these boards.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I'm shocked that it took four pages to get around to discussing DrugS's decision to rank Smarty number one among 3yo males. If Serling was still around here, it would have only taken four seconds.

Point Given would be #1 for me.

Point Givens easy at 1 and Drugs is a bit confused here, Bernardini 2....

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Point Givens easy at 1 and Drugs is a bit confused here, Bernardini 2....

no way bernardini should be ahead of tiznow.