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(Republican DT'er rebuttal post that the woman was asking for it in 3...2...1...)
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There's not enough info. This easily could be a setup by desperate libtards. It's not like the "victim" has a clean past and it's not like Conway supporters haven't used plants in the past. See Fancy Farm for reference.
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Here's the video (hope it links correctly; YouTube is dinky on iPad)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbnEy...layer_embedded
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There's a whole story within that one. And will you kindly stop usng Suffy's dead donkey as your avytar? Last edited by clyde : 10-26-2010 at 01:14 PM. |
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The sensationalist media has headlines of "Curb-stomping" like it was similar to what happened in American History X.
He pushed down on her shoulder. I don't know why liberals have so much trouble with anatomy. Maybe it's more of a dishonesty problem/win at all costs than it is about honesty. Color me shocked. |
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go get 'im randy!!
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I saw ONE guy step on her and many yell stop or call the police but way to group all men of KY as women abusers based on the actions of one. Amazing you stick up for Muslim men but not KY men. Actually it isn't amazing at all. This has typical setup written all over it. Let's see a woman from Massachusetts, the daughter of one of New England's largest real estate developers, a professional protester with not only MoveOn but also Greenpeace, who has been arrested everywhere from Beijing China to New Orleans LA to Manhattan NY shows up in a blonde wig and somehow is attacked by a Rand supporter? Conway's camp has tried similar tactics before . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4bpgnkNN7Q
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Pretty impressive stuff to actually infiltrate the Paul campaign some time ago with a volunteer campaign coordinator just to wait all this time so he could step on a woman's head just to make Paul look bad.
Liberals are getting better at this setup stuff every day! This has to be one of the best plants in history! http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/26/...er-identified/ |
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It's all so ridiculous. Both sides have nut-jobs. And two of them are center stage in this mess. Both are indefensible. |
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But also completely irrelevant to silly claims that this was some kind of setup. |
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http://www.courier-journal.com/artic...mping+on+woman
Reports of a Paul supporter's foot being stepped on. No video. I guess there's no video because she wasn't a paid employee for a right-wing website. So, if you're a regular of this horrible sub-forum, that means she has no credibility. The moveon trust fund baby does, however. |
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Silly? Her whole shtick is to provoke what happened to her in order to swing voters to her candidate/agenda. To not have reservations about the validity of that video would be borderline naive. |
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After my foot got stepped on, though, I did call the police to file charges against the guy who bumped into me with his shoulder while he was dancing, causing me to spill my $6 beer and asked that charges be pressed for vandalism to my property. |
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You know what would have kept her from getting her head stepped on? Not a lack of provocation on her part, but if there wasn't someone around who was willing to step on a woman's head. That whole personal responsibility thing that conservatives pretend to love rears its ugly head again. Oops. |
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That's simplistic, of course. But the main reason why is that the reason is SIMPLE, so by nature, it's a simplistic argument. Her head didn't go get itself stepped on. Or maybe it did, and I'm too simple and dense to understand how those kinds of things happen. I don't care if she has a concussion or whether she just had to experience it...it's pretty wild watching you make excuses for public violence towards a woman just because "both sides have crazy people." And I'm the dense and simplistic one. Sheesh. |
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I called "the few Rand Paul supporters" (not everyone) involved "brave, tolerant" = not at all of other people's political views. Was that so hard? To read exactly what I wrote, Dell, and not something you make up in your head? Woman abusers? You'd just pull that out of your butt? Quote:
But guess what? Everyone has every right to be there and hold up their signs. Even people from PA sent by MoveOn to hold up signs. But no, not according to these brave Paul supporters defending our rights and taking our country back! One guy grabs her and pulls her back and down to the ground, then gets on top of her and holds her down, while the braver one takes a stomp on her head/shoulders. Based only on that fact she was in their crowd holding up an sign that wasn't a Rand Paul sign. You'll also notice that she was completely passive, and didn't fight being grabbed and thrown to the ground at all. Not one bit. A complete embarrassment to Kentucky.
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Consequences for actions, Brian. Not everything is cut and dry in the wild. There are laws but the government hasn't put a chip in our heads to remind us how to behave. If they did this incident would of never have happened. It happened. You have two people with a financial interest in the election. Their livelihoods will benefit if their candidate gets elected. These people are desperate. This isn't some Utopia we're in right now and if you aren't aware of your actions in public and you don't realize the consequences then there is a chance you will end up on the ground with a foot on your shoulder. And I'm giving MoveOn.org the benefit of the doubt here. They can't be so retarded that they've never considered their actions could lead to an occasional physical altercation. Of course I could be the naive one and maybe the Repubcorp sign or whatever the f.uck it said was all they were going for. But then I'd have to sniff lots of gas for that to happen so I'll go with the first one. |
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Well we completely disagree on that. It's not Utopian to think that people should be able to control themselves and behave like human beings, even if provoked (and hilariously enough, especially when that provocation involves a wig and holding a sign....some extreme provocation in the big picture, we agree on that, at least).
It's the same exact argument in a different sphere that women should be aware of what they wear in public and how much they drink so they don't get raped by people prone to raping women and trying to blame their outfit or intoxication for forcing them to grab the woman off a street and force them into an alley. These things happen because there is someone willing to do them, not because someone wore a short skirt, or wore a wig and held a sign to get a gotcha moment with a politician. That's just absolving people of personal responsibility and the duty to have some common decency and self-restraint towards other people. The absence of people who were willing to be violent towards each other would guarantee that they wouldn't happen. That's not Utopian, that's the truth. If people can't control themselves and keep themselves from harming each other, it's THEIR fault, plain and simple, and passing the blame in even the slightest way to the person they attacked is horrid. We can disagree on that, but it's hardly naive to expect people to control themselves, and in turn, expect them to take ALL the responsibility for it when they don't. |