DERBY/OAKS DAWN PATROL: (5/1) Valeski out, Optimizer in..

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Sounds like you might just wann take a deep breath and then key "Went the Day Good" in your verticals on Saturday

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Sounds like you might just wann take a deep breath and then key "Went the Day Good" in your verticals on Saturday

Went the Day Well is actually proper grammar.

[booner]

Originally Posted by tywizard

Is anyone else finding it impossible to construct a cost-effective tickets for tris and supers? I may limit to exactas and then try the Pick 3/4 with 4-5 of my top selections....

Steve - You mention looking over the past few Derby charts...I've looked at the past 10 PPs for the Derby and tried to compare relative to eventual outcome. I've noticed the following:

1. This group is unlike any group in the past 10 years....or any year that I can remember to be exact. Each of them seem to primed for a top performance.

2. I've posted this before elsewhere, the past five winners have been setup so that the Derby is third off the bench. With that in mind, this angle fits seven horses: Trinniberg, Done Talking, Daddy Nose Best, Sabercat, Dullahan, Gemologist and Union Rags.

Daddy Nose Best, Sabercat and Union Rags all appear to be training well at CD....Gemologist is undefeated and has two wins at the track...Dullahan seems plausible...Done Talking is logical underneath and Trinniberg is a toss.

I'm scared of Bodemiester not being on that list, but I'm thinking about using 5 of the seven above in the multi's.

Thoughts?

I will not have Bodemeister on any of my tickets. He has progressed for 4 straight races; I think he is due to regress in the Derby, even though he did work lights out and looked good on Sunday.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by booner

I will not have Bodemeister on any of my tickets. He has progressed for 4 straight races; I think he is due to regress in the Derby, even though he did work lights out and looked good on Sunday.

I don't get this stance at all. . . especially considering the second half of what you said.

[booner]

I know it doesn't seem to make sense, hockey. But I just don't think he will run another big race. His last work made me want to reconsider, but I'm sticking by my first instinct. If he beats me, he beats me.

[slotdirt]

I suppose one has to take a stand somewhere.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Danzig

lol
i'm still hung up on IC saying a point was mute, but that's a personal problem.

If only all points were mute.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I don't get this stance at all. . . especially considering the second half of what you said.

I want to be in love with him. I really do.

But the curse of Apollo lives strong. Just look at the laundry list of casualties listed in Saturday's DRF. Some really good names on the list. In the past 30 years alone, 28 starters, one 2nd (Strodes Creek in '94 with a weak field after Holy Bull's disastrous run) and two 3rds (the great Curlin and Reinvested in 1982- don't know anything about him.) Even the great Pulpit, long the fastest debut in Beyer history, could only manage 4th against a very deep field.

Trends are made to be broken- but this one at least has a physiological basis on why it hasn't. Keep this in mind on Saturday.

[RockHardTen1985]

This may help a few of you out. Unless they draw the rail, Bode and TCI are my A's. No one else. I feel Bode is very very likely, and TCI has so much going for him. Plus I have him in pool 1. As of now ill have 2 back ups. Creative Cause and Hansen. That's it.

[santana]

Certainly depending on how the post postios goes......Bodie and Union are the ONLY 2 in here for me.....
We have all seen even the best of the best goe down, but those two seem to be a bit better than the rest.

What did Dale Romans have for breakfast?

[Gate Dancer]

As of now.............

A's --- Daddy Nose Best, Dullahan, Creative Cause

B's --- Union Rags, I'll Have Another, Went The Day Well

C's --- Gemologist, Prospective

Really hard race to go vertical............doubles, pic 3's, is where I'm leaning.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

What didn't Dale Romans have for breakfast?

FTFY

[Rudeboyelvis]

!!!OOOOOOOOOiii

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

FTFY

haha!!!

[slotdirt]

Just read that Mark Valeski is definitely out of the race.

[Danzig]

after reading beyer on t'burg, i'm leaning toward dullahan, creative cause and gemologist. i think his points about the early pace and who it will affect is absolutely correct.

[slotdirt]

I agree with Beyer for the most part. If a horse is going to go out and run a 45 half in the Derby, it's going to effect the race outcome regardless.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

FTFY

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Just read that Mark Valeski is definitely out of the race.

All he had to do was buck this morning and he would have been in the gate