Breeders' Cup 2014

[Revidere]

Originally Posted by Danzig

except santa anita had poly and still got it.

Actually it was cushion track but more to the point that not one main track winner prepped on dirt and you had several turf horses winning on the main, I think that was enough to have them be skeptical of having the event at another all weather surface venue.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by asudevil

Redboard.....Epic day at the windows for me. Silic and Anees.

......worst cup ever, took such a massive beating.

[Honu]

Monmouth sucked.......rain, bad track and soggy turf course. The staff in the grandstand was not even close to ready when the gates opened, no food ready at all. Paddock is way to small and so is the grandstand.....yeah they put up bleachers to house the crowd but it was pretty hard to get people to go sit in them in the rain. I dont really think people wanna be bottled up inside with no elbow room so they dont have to stand in the rain, no umbrellas allowed.
I can see why S.A. is the perfect spot.....5 airports within 30 mins, almost 99% chance there will be sunshine. Grandstand is big enough to handle the crowd and then there is always the infield.
Besides the races there are numerous things to see and do and places to stay and go eat all with in walking and driving distance of the track. BIG BONUS!!!!! They are extending the gold line of rail out past the track that will take you right into downtown LA.
Until there is a better venue I can see SA getting the BC most years.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Revidere

Actually it was cushion track but more to the point that not one main track winner prepped on dirt and you had several turf horses winning on the main, I think that was enough to have them be skeptical of having the event at another all weather surface venue.

hey, wouldn't break my heart to never see it on an awt.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Honu

Monmouth sucked.......rain, bad track and soggy turf course. The staff in the grandstand was not even close to ready when the gates opened, no food ready at all. Paddock is way to small and so is the grandstand.....yeah they put up bleachers to house the crowd but it was pretty hard to get people to go sit in them in the rain. I dont really think people wanna be bottled up inside with no elbow room so they dont have to stand in the rain, no umbrellas allowed.
I can see why S.A. is the perfect spot.....5 airports within 30 mins, almost 99% chance there will be sunshine. Grandstand is big enough to handle the crowd and then there is always the infield.
Besides the races there are numerous things to see and do and places to stay and go eat all with in walking and driving distance of the track. BIG BONUS!!!!! They are extending the gold line of rail out past the track that will take you right into downtown LA.
Until there is a better venue I can see SA getting the BC most years.

Well there is that...

It should have been at Hollywood park this year as a sendoff to the iconic track.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Well there is that...

Lotsa stuff to do in LA.....just for fun and lunch you could go the art district, they have brew houses, chinese food, art and a german lunch place to name a few.
Staples center had been the BC party more than once.....my favorite was the one at Universal.
Beaches and Disney are close and if you dont like that you can always take a couple hours and go up to big bear they have an Alpine Slide open when there is no snow.
Oh yeah and you can pretty much count on some sun.

[Revidere]

Just for giggles I would love to see NYRA damn the torpedoes and go head to head with the Breeders Cup. The week before the BC, they should card the Champagne, Frizette, Flower Bowl, Turf Classic, Kelso, Vosburgh and Jockey Club Gold Cup. I would bet The Breeders Cup would look alot like Cal Cup day since trainers would rather ship to New York from Europe, Canada and Kentucky. Of course, doing that would be exactly what is plaguing the industry right now.

[10 pnt move up]

NYRA didn't submit a bid, from DRF.

The only other candidate for the event was Churchill Downs, according to Breeders' Cup officials. Belmont Park, which is operated by the New York Racing Association, had in the past expressed interest in the 2014 event but did not submit a bid.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

NYRA didn't submit a bid, from DRF.

The only other candidate for the event was Churchill Downs, according to Breeders' Cup officials. Belmont Park, which is operated by the New York Racing Association, had in the past expressed interest in the 2014 event but did not submit a bid.

what happened to del mar's bid?

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/...breeders-cup-/

and monmouths?

http://www.nj.com/horse-racing/index...eders_cup.html

[Danzig]

hey, revidere, you might be on to something:




http://insiderlouisville.com/news/20...breeders-cup/#

It’s hard to believe that the sport’s greatest day of racing would never return to the greatest American venue. Common sense and old-school politics argue otherwise.

Kentucky remains the heart of the U.S. thoroughbred industry, and New York remains the nation’s media capital. It also boasts arguably the country’s best racing. West Coast horses routinely ship to big races in New York. Horses from New York, Kentucky and Florida seldom go west.

Except for the Breeders’ Cup.

If the Cup permanently relocates to Santa Anita – or a rotation of Santa Anita and Gulfstream – look for Churchill Downs and Belmont Park to someday stage a championship series of their own.

Here’s hoping it doesn’t come to that. Such a move could make the 30th Breeders’ Cup, this fall, the last of its kind. World Thoroughbred Championships? If Churchill and Belmont create their own year-end racing festival, the Breeders’ Cup won’t even be an American championship.

If bridges are mended and reasonable accommodations made, the Breeders’ Cup can be saved by restoring Kentucky and New York to the rotation.

Which is what most everyone wants anyway.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Honu

Lotsa stuff to do in LA.....just for fun and lunch you could go the art district, they have brew houses, chinese food, art and a german lunch place to name a few.
Staples center had been the BC party more than once.....my favorite was the one at Universal.
Beaches and Disney are close and if you dont like that you can always take a couple hours and go up to big bear they have an Alpine Slide open when there is no snow.
Oh yeah and you can pretty much count on some sun.

I was only teasing, but the best of LA is not really downtown aside from the arepas at the little marketplace.

[kp319]

Originally Posted by Revidere

Just for giggles I would love to see NYRA damn the torpedoes and go head to head with the Breeders Cup. The week before the BC, they should card the Champagne, Frizette, Flower Bowl, Turf Classic, Kelso, Vosburgh and Jockey Club Gold Cup. I would bet The Breeders Cup would look alot like Cal Cup day since trainers would rather ship to New York from Europe, Canada and Kentucky. Of course, doing that would be exactly what is plaguing the industry right now.

I would love to see that. I don't even bet the Breeders Cup anymore,Never liked the 2 day thing and I don't like their bias against NY.

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I was only teasing, but the best of LA is not really downtown aside from the arepas at the little marketplace.

This alone is worth going downtown for....Trust me on this!

http://www.philippes.com/

[alysheba4]

philippes is alright, think if it was in new york it would be out of business.

[Stickhorse]

Saw this reply in in Lousiville CJ from a gentleman named Walt Gekko:

For Churchill to host the BC in any of the next three years, they would have needed to ask the Future Farmers of America to move back their convention by one week. Obviously, with Breeders' Cup Ltd. choosing to go back to Santa Anita for 2014, the FFA refused to or could not move their event back a week (as I understand it, they already booked every hotel room in Louisville for 2013-'15 for that event). That left the Breeders' Cup with no choice because they really can't move the BC off their current spot due to the positioning of other events on the international Horse Racing calendar. Moving the BC back a week in this instance (which would be necessary for Churchill to host the BC would likely cost BC Ltd. several horses from the Arc de Triomphe Festival whose connections would simply then wait for the Japan Cup and supporting events at Tokyo Race Course at the end of November/beginning of December. BC Ltd. would need the Japan Racing Association to agree to move their events back for the BC to be able to move theirs back.

That was the problem here, and it left BC Ltd. with no choice because New York (Belmont or Monmouth Park) is not an option for the foreseeable future either due to the New York City Marathon being on the Sunday after the BC with that event taking up a much greater amount of hotel space just since Monmouth hosted the 2007 BC (this reared its ugly head last year when many people displaced by Sandy were then being kicked out of hotel rooms by those in town for the NYC Marathon before it was cancelled). A secondary problem is a scenario where the Yankees or Mets have home field for a World Series that goes the distance (Game 7 as currently structured is on the day before the Breeders' Cup). That problem would be even worse if multiple rainouts (as happened in 1962, '75 and 2008 and would have also happened last year if the Giants had not swept the Tigers as the remnants of Sandy would have caused three straight rainouts of Game 5 in Detroit) pushed Games 6 & 7 back a few days to where they were played on BC weekend. In any of those baseball scenarios, Major League Baseball would likely have priority on hotel space over those in town for both the BC and NYC marathon (as the visiting team along with media and fans would need that space), creating a nightmare in that scenario for both BC and NYC Marathon officials.

That's why Santa Anita landed the Breeders' Cup again.