A Case for Not Bombing Syria

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I absolutely oppose BOG, and hope there isn't a slippery slope leading to that.

thats one of my issues with the subject. there is no guarantee (how could there be?) that it wouldn't come to that eventually.

i have uncertainty about who used what over there. i also do not want us involved in someone else's civil war...especially when you don't know who the good guys are, or if there are good guys.

there's also the fact that the middle east is like a big pool of quicksand. doesn't appear too dangerous, seems easy enough to handle...and then the longer you struggle, the worse off you are.

lastly, what has it got to do with us? our national security, or the security of any allies? nothing. more to lose than to gain.

[dellinger63]

How morally bankrupt must an adult human be, to threaten raping an underage daughter of an enemy? And how evil must a country be to publicize said threat?

[bigrun]

Got this email from a Texas bud...

Dear John & Grace,
The Bishops of the United States are asking that all Catholics join with Pope Francis in praying for a peaceful resolution to the crisis in Syria on Saturday, September 7. The Pope is holding a Prayer Vigil in St. Peter Square from 7:00 to 11:00pm Saturday night (that’s 12:00 to 4:00pm Dallas time). I would encourage all members of the parish to join as families and/or with friends in observing some form of prayer and fasting tomorrow. While our church is occupied all day tomorrow, the Eucharistic Chapel is certainly available for private/personal prayer should you choose to spend some time before the Blessed Sacrament reserved in the Tabernacle.

More information about the crisis and the position of the U. S. Bishops on the crisis can be found at http://cms.usccb.org/issues-and-acti...yria/index.cfm.

Please pray for peace!

Fr. Bob

Reverend Monsignor Robert M. Coerver, V.F.
Pastor
Saint Rita Catholic Community
12521 Inwood Road
Dallas, TX 75244

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

thats one of my issues with the subject. there is no guarantee (how could there be?) that it wouldn't come to that eventually.

i have uncertainty about who used what over there. i also do not want us involved in someone else's civil war...especially when you don't know who the good guys are, or if there are good guys.

there's also the fact that the middle east is like a big pool of quicksand. doesn't appear too dangerous, seems easy enough to handle...and then the longer you struggle, the worse off you are.

lastly, what has it got to do with us? our national security, or the security of any allies? nothing. more to lose than to gain.

Nothing, nothing and yes...always turmoil in the middle east...and we are always trying to keep peace even if we have to start a war to do it.
and keep the oil flowing.....damned if we do or don't

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Got this email from a Texas bud...

Dear John & Grace,
The Bishops of the United States are asking that all Catholics join with Pope Francis in praying for a peaceful resolution to the crisis in Syria on Saturday, September 7. The Pope is holding a Prayer Vigil in St. Peter Square from 7:00 to 11:00pm Saturday night (that’s 12:00 to 4:00pm Dallas time). I would encourage all members of the parish to join as families and/or with friends in observing some form of prayer and fasting tomorrow. While our church is occupied all day tomorrow, the Eucharistic Chapel is certainly available for private/personal prayer should you choose to spend some time before the Blessed Sacrament reserved in the Tabernacle.

More information about the crisis and the position of the U. S. Bishops on the crisis can be found at http://cms.usccb.org/issues-and-acti...yria/index.cfm.

Please pray for peace!

Fr. Bob

Reverend Monsignor Robert M. Coerver, V.F.
Pastor
Saint Rita Catholic Community
12521 Inwood Road
Dallas, TX 75244

Suppose it beats bombing; barely!

Can't believe the church didn't ask for

If I encounter a pair of wild dogs fighting in the street, I don't feel compelled to risk life and limb to break it up. Why in heaven's name does the US have to get involved in this mess?

There are atrocities being committed by both sides, and have been in every war (civil or otherwise) since the beginning of time. Taking action against one side implies aiding the other, a step we should not be willing to take at this time.

I used to like Kerry, but the more forcefully he sounds off, the less believeable he becomes to me.

[GBBob]

lol..saw this tweet on a homepage:

"I don't think the country that sells Dolly Madison Pink Frosted Zingers should be preaching about using chemical weapons on people"

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GBBob

lol..saw this tweet on a homepage:

"I don't think the country that sells Dolly Madison Pink Frosted Zingers should be preaching about using chemical weapons on people"

ha!!

good one. (and speaking of chemicals in foods:

http://news.msn.com/science-technolo...senic-fda-says )




and mike, good point about the wild dogs.

i get that we aren't supposed to ignore wmd use. but, if the u.n. doesn't care enough to fool with it, i think we should stay out of it. everyone knows what we'd do if they were used against us or an ally.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Got this email from a Texas bud...

Dear John & Grace,
The Bishops of the United States are asking that all Catholics join with Pope Francis in praying for a peaceful resolution to the crisis in Syria on Saturday, September 7. The Pope is holding a Prayer Vigil in St. Peter Square from 7:00 to 11:00pm Saturday night (that’s 12:00 to 4:00pm Dallas time). I would encourage all members of the parish to join as families and/or with friends in observing some form of prayer and fasting tomorrow. While our church is occupied all day tomorrow, the Eucharistic Chapel is certainly available for private/personal prayer should you choose to spend some time before the Blessed Sacrament reserved in the Tabernacle.

More information about the crisis and the position of the U. S. Bishops on the crisis can be found at http://cms.usccb.org/issues-and-acti...yria/index.cfm.

Please pray for peace!

Fr. Bob

Reverend Monsignor Robert M. Coerver, V.F.
Pastor
Saint Rita Catholic Community
12521 Inwood Road
Dallas, TX 75244

well, i guess it's progress from back when they'd call crusades. don't kill your fellow christians (less money in the collection plate) but by all means, go kill some infidels.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

If I encounter a pair of wild dogs fighting in the street, I don't feel compelled to risk life and limb to break it up. Why in heaven's name does the US have to get involved in this mess?

There are atrocities being committed by both sides, and have been in every war (civil or otherwise) since the beginning of time. Taking action against one side implies aiding the other, a step we should not be willing to take at this time.

I used to like Kerry, but the more forcefully he sounds off, the less believeable he becomes to me.

Exactly

[TheSpyder]

Originally Posted by GBBob

lol..saw this tweet on a homepage:

"I don't think the country that sells Dolly Madison Pink Frosted Zingers should be preaching about using chemical weapons on people"

[bigrun]

Timely cartoon...bout sums it up..pay attn..

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Timely cartoon...bout sums it up..pay attn..

Hard to find much of anything that's not a powder keg or hornet's nest over there, for thousands of years!

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

Hard to find much of anything that's not a powder keg or hornet's nest over there, for thousands of years!

True...got my email up Mike...and just got this from a friend...should go in the jokes thread but fits here for some..



HOW TO START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK
>
>
> 1. Open a new file in your computer.
>
> 2. Name it 'Barack Obama.'
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> 3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.
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> 4. Empty the Recycle Bin.
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> 5. Your PC will ask you: 'Do you really want to
> Get rid of 'Barack Obama?'
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> 6. Firmly Click 'Yes.'
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> 7. Feel better?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

True...got my email up Mike...and just got this from a friend...should go in the jokes thread but fits here for some..



HOW TO START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK
>
>
> 1. Open a new file in your computer.
>
> 2. Name it 'Barack Obama.'
>
> 3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.
>
> 4. Empty the Recycle Bin.
>
> 5. Your PC will ask you: 'Do you really want to
> Get rid of 'Barack Obama?'
>
> 6. Firmly Click 'Yes.'
>
> 7. Feel better?

nope, wouldn't feel better. cause...joe biden

[Danzig]

now kerry (and what's up with his face?!) is making the rounds, discussing video evidence...

why are we pushing this? why aren't we waiting for the un report?

and for anyone who wonders why the rest of the world isn't so keen to hear us...

let's see, the nsa scandal in which our govt. wasn't only spying on us, but also spying on our allies...
russia feels we lied to them back when it was libya that we were going to 'just strike a bit, but we're not interested in regime change'....and then it became regime change.
there's our sending a man with great credibility to the un regarding a certain dictator and all his wmd's....yeah, how'd we look after all that again?


we are untrustworthy right now. obama went to medvedev when it was his turn in the russian merry go round presidency seat, and said 'don't vote no on libya. trust me'. putin is no medvedev, he doesn't like us, he doesn't trust us...why would he? he doesn't believe in regime change, and knows what we did in libya.

[randallscott35]

Putin has sized up Obama...fall back America. I want no part of any more intervention, especially to help rebels who don't like this country either.

[Danzig]

we need to get that reset button back from medvedev, and use it on this 2nd presidential term.

[dellinger63]

Can't Susan Rice come out again and lie it was all due to a video?

Curious why this President is so dead set on avenging Syrian deaths and so uninterested in those who attacked and murdered AMERICANS in Benghazi?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Can't Susan Rice come out again and lie it was all due to a video?

Curious why this President is so dead set on avenging Syrian deaths and so uninterested in those who attacked and murdered AMERICANS in Benghazi?

Or ANY American president avenging Geonocide in Africa. I guess the African lobby doesnt have deep enough pockets.