American Pharoah...

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by pointman

You were? Way to go Dicky, this is a big accomplishment! You learned how to pick the favorite in a horse race!

But I wouldn't take off the helmet yet . . . .

Which is your favorite?

I think I like the one that begins with "I like winning" the best.

It's subtle, you know?

Originally Posted by richard burch

i would like to see a rematch....

but it feels so good. I just like being right. It really feels good to pick the right horse.

Originally Posted by richard burch

I love winning!!!

It feels so good. I just like being right. It really feels good to pick the right horse.

Originally Posted by richard burch

It feels so good. I just like being right. It really feels good to pick the right horse.

CONGRATS A.P., V. Espinoza and B. Baffert......I just like being right. It feels good to pick the right horse.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by cakes44

I'm certain that whoever called out IC about his opinions on AP and belittling him, and might have possibly touted the DFL horse, will be back here lettin IC know who was right. I'm holding my breath.

I hope you're not talking about me. All I did was ask him three questions. He answered two of them. In the conversation, the only thing left unsaid is whether or not he is currently betting. The onus is on him.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Which is your favorite?

I think I like the one that begins with "I like winning" the best.

It's subtle, you know?

I wanna play poker with him.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I wanna play poker with him.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I hope you're not talking about me. All I did was ask him three questions. He answered two of them. In the conversation, the only thing left unsaid is whether or not he is currently betting. The onus is on him.

Yep. Got it.

[Danzig]

Aps owner from egypt, right?
Who the heck spelled the horses name? ☺

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

So rubbing it in that he ran poorly (and way below expectations) was just to make yourself feel better? Well done.


Thankfully, he is reportedly ok for now.

Read better.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Yep. Got it.

Yep, that went about as expected.

I do like the inference however that since I don't bet, my opinion is invalid.

I guess since I don't bet it invalidates his horrible handicapping of that race.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Read better.

You mean where you so snidely asked if Upstart had finished the race yet?

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Aps owner from egypt, right?
Who the heck spelled the horses name? ☺

Coincidentally, I just had a conversation with a friend about this- in fact, Zayat didn't name the horse, but Justin Zayat did try to blame the Jockey Club for it:

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/...-wrong-pharaoh

Heh. Props for the Jockey Club's response.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Coincidentally, I just had a conversation with a friend about this- in fact, Zayat didn't name the horse, but Justin Zayat did try to blame the Jockey Club for it:

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/...-wrong-pharaoh

Heh. Props for the Jockey Club's response.

We can only hope that Johnny Weir and Tara Lapinski get to the bottom of this major breaking story.

[Arletta]

32 times seems a bit much...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...d-papadopoulos

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Arletta

32 times seems a bit much...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...d-papadopoulos

it worked

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Coincidentally, I just had a conversation with a friend about this- in fact, Zayat didn't name the horse, but Justin Zayat did try to blame the Jockey Club for it:

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/...-wrong-pharaoh

Heh. Props for the Jockey Club's response.

I knew they'd had a naming contest, and wondered if that contributed to the error.
you never know tho. I have my last name spelled incorrectly constantly....just gave out two scholarships, and the home office had my name spelled wrong on them! hello, been with you guys four years now.
when youngest was born, I submitted his ss paperwork. his card came in misspelled. I called, they asked if I was sure that it was wrong. er, I'm sure-I know how to spell my name! all they had to do was copy what I wrote....

[bare it all]

Husband was watching me with me pointed out down the stretch that the jock was whacking away on Pharoah and the jock on Firing Line wasn't smacking his horse near as much. Kind of hard to explain it really.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by bare it all

Husband was watching me with me pointed out down the stretch that the jock was whacking away on Pharoah and the jock on Firing Line wasn't smacking his horse near as much. Kind of hard to explain it really.

I'll explain it for you. Some horses need more urging than others to keep to the task at hand. Let's start a new thread about the "whacking" so those who realize it's part of the game and it doesn't hurt the horses don't have to filter through this crap again.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yep, that went about as expected.

I do like the inference however that since I don't bet, my opinion is invalid.

I guess since I don't bet it invalidates his horrible handicapping of that race.

I didn't offer any opinion whatsoever on your opinion. You, on the other hand, by not betting, have made it clear that YOU have no value for YOUR opinion.

That's all. For all I know, you're a genius. You just don't think so.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I didn't offer any opinion whatsoever on your opinion. You, on the other hand, by not betting, have made it clear that YOU have no value for YOUR opinion.

That's all. For all I know, you're a genius. You just don't think so.

Fair enough.


However, my primary reasons for not betting are two. First, I get too wrapped up in it and get nothing else done in life.

Second, I lost too many races by jockey ineptitude and shady training practices.

I internalize that stuff too much.

[bare it all]

Originally Posted by 3kings

I'll explain it for you. Some horses need more urging than others to keep to the task at hand. Let's start a new thread about the "whacking" so those who realize it's part of the game and it doesn't hurt the horses don't have to filter through this crap again.

No need to get snarky. I'm fine with the whip and understand why it's there. What you said - that's more or less what I told him - just that the horse was probably wasn't used to a horse coming up on him and needed extra urging. You can call it what you want, but to someone who is just watching a sport that is very new for them, it's whacking, regardless of if it hurts the animal or not. Visually, it's not something a neophyte likes to see or understands. It IS hard to explain this part (crop/whip) part of the sport when there is a stark contrast in the urging of the two final competitors coming to the wire.

[blackthroatedwind]

So American Pharoah, who we were told has three or four gears, and can run as fast as need be to win ( essentially ) any race, needed 32 stings of the whip to run ( effectively ) the same race he ran in Arkansas?

American Pharoah got a dream trip to win the Derby by three quarters of a length over a horse that didn't change leads in the stretch. The pre-race BS about this horse was completely exposed.