Gotta love Watchmaker.... - Page 4

Seattleallstar · #61 10-17-2006, 02:38 PM

well tagg himself called his horse a big dummy

#62 10-17-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

well tagg himself called his horse a big dummy

Yes he did, the horse is obviously still green. But I doubt he was referring to him in that manner as a very stupid horse, just one who hasn't figured things out yet in terms of racing.
You can't simulate all racing conditions in the morning. Most babies are works in progress.

Seattleallstar · #63 10-17-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Yes he did, the horse is obviously still green. But I doubt he was referring to him in that manner as a very stupid horse, just one who hasn't figured things out yet in terms of racing.
You can't simulate all racing conditions in the morning. Most babies are works in progress.

just like me

#64 10-17-2006, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

just like me

You are 25 years old, you have no excuses!!!!

kentuckyrosesinmay · #65 10-17-2006, 02:42 PM

That's funny. I call my horses big dummies all of the time...

Revolution · #66 10-17-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

well tagg himself called his horse a big dummy

He is really big. I don't know how dumb he is, but he is huge. He makes Showing Up look really tiny.

#67 10-17-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Revolution

He is really big. I don't know how dumb he is, but he is huge. He makes Showing Up look really tiny.

Those kind are usually a real challenge to keep sound(point Given, Rock Hard Ten, etc). I hope Tagg can keep him sound as he looks like a real good horse.

Seattleallstar · #68 10-17-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

You are 25 years old, you have no excuses!!!!

i never got any breaks in life

#69 10-17-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

i never got any breaks in life

Yeah, right. You avoided work from ages 16-25 by sponging off relatives.
You still live at home and only pay small bills, and thats only in the last few months.
You are completely healthy and always have been other than the situation caused by your own overindulgence.
You had your college tuition paid for entirely by your folks.
I'm tired of beating you up in private, nothing I say to you seems to sink in. Maybe hearing it from others will get through to you.
I know folks who have had very few breaks in life, and folks who have to had to persevere despite hardships and tragedy. You don't fall into either category. Grow up, and act like a man.

SentToStud · #70 10-17-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

i never got any breaks in life

When you get a chance, take this break from your every day routine which is causing you problems.

Go spend a morning in the waiting room at a Pediatric Cancer Treatment Center.

Let us know what you think.

repent · #71 10-17-2006, 03:04 PM

lol
this is great.

its like the speech I give my kid brother on a weekly basis.

Repent

Seattleallstar · #72 10-17-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by repent

lol
this is great.

its like the speech I give my kid brother on a weekly basis.

Repent

shut up..lol

repent · #73 10-17-2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

When you get a chance, take this break from your every day routine which is causing you problems.

Go spend a morning in the waiting room at a Pediatric Cancer Treatment Center.

Let us know what you think.

i saw an episode of House about a kid with cancer.
House brought up a great point.
they cant all be brave and good people.
some of the cancer kids have to be whiney little brats.
If I am going to take a morning off of work, Id rather spend my morning at the track.

Repent

repent · #74 10-17-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

shut up..lol

haha

grow up, be a man.
i think I remember Roy saying that Aaron in Primal Fear.

Repent

Linny · #75 10-17-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Linny horses aren't machines and they sometimes take a few starts to learn their lessons.
What Nobiz did would only be considered neagtive by me if he does that again and again like Corinthian wound up doing.
Many a very good horse does what Nobiz did in his early races while learning his or her lessons.
He got next to no schooling in his debut as he shot to thelead after 3 duelers committed suicide on the front end. He cantered down the lane and didn't learn any lessons.
Now that they know he may be prone to waiting or lugging in, they will most likely change bits or maybe put cheater blinkers on him if he does it again.
In addition to that, a good trainer like Tagg now knows what to work on in the mornings with him and will probably make sure he works in behind a set of horses or alongside another one in company.
It was only his 2nd start, and its just too early to declare him a mental patient.

I ride horses and have trained babies, I know they take alot of time. I certainly don't think NoBiz is a mental patient, just a bit short on the seasoning needed to win the BCJ. You are right about his debut, it was (in a way) too good for his own good. I'm sure Tagg will school him well and work on lead changes too. IMO, he was fatiguing from his early efforts to get into the race and struggled with the lead change. Tagg has said that he's a big and goofy colt.
I like him alot and if I had to select a Ky Derby contender from the babies I've seen, he'd be "one of the ones." I just question whether he'll be ready to turn the tables on Scat Daddy and beat horses like Great Hunter and Circular Quay in 3 weeks.

#76 10-17-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny

I ride horses and have trained babies, I know they take alot of time. I certainly don't think NoBiz is a mental patient, just a bit short on the seasoning needed to win the BCJ. You are right about his debut, it was (in a way) too good for his own good. I'm sure Tagg will school him well and work on lead changes too. IMO, he was fatiguing from his early efforts to get into the race and struggled with the lead change. Tagg has said that he's a big and goofy colt.
I like him alot and if I had to select a Ky Derby contender from the babies I've seen, he'd be "one of the ones." I just question whether he'll be ready to turn the tables on Scat Daddy and beat horses like Great Hunter and Circular Quay in 3 weeks.

Oh I agree with you there!!!
If he were mine he'd be training for the Remsen Stakes on Thanksgiving weekend at Aqueduct.
Rushing him back on three weeks rest and shipping to Ky doesn't seem like the prudent move. Tagg is a really rational and good horseman, I think when it all boils down he will pass the BC. I think thats too much too soon.
The Remsen is a mile and an eigth grade two and 6 weeks rest between the Champagne and Remsen. Lots of time for him to recover off his last race, and learn to switch leads better and mature.
I hope thats what he does.

SentToStud · #77 10-17-2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by repent

i saw an episode of House about a kid with cancer.
House brought up a great point.
they cant all be brave and good people.
some of the cancer kids have to be whiney little brats.
If I am going to take a morning off of work, Id rather spend my morning at the track.

Repent

I agree they're not all good and brave and they're whiney. They're also scared and so is this guy Seattle Jerry.

The difference is these kids are scared they're going to die before they reach age 10. Seattle Jerry is scared he is going to die before he inherits his parents wealth.

I suppose Seattle Jerry can learn some things from watching episodic television. But it ain't quite the same as having your gaze met by a smiling, bald eight year old in a wheelchair.

repent · #78 10-17-2006, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

I agree they're not all good and brave and they're whiney. They're also scared and so is this guy Seattle Jerry.

The difference is these kids are scared they're going to die before they reach age 10. Seattle Jerry is scared he is going to die before he inherits his parents wealth.

I suppose Seattle Jerry can learn some things from watching episodic television. But it ain't quite the same as having your gaze met by a smiling, bald eight year old in a wheelchair.

lol,
you guys are too hard on seattle.

hes not icing down the steps hoping for his parents to meet an unfortunate end.

from what I can tell, he has a job and is somewhat self sufficient.
personally, i could not live with my parents(how are you supposed to bring a girl home or run on your treadmill at 3AM?)

but I suppose it would be nice to not pay rent or mortgage.

Repent

SentToStud · #79 10-17-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by repent

lol,
you guys are too hard on seattle.

hes not icing down the steps hoping for his parents to meet an unfortunate end.

from what I can tell, he has a job and is somewhat self sufficient.
personally, i could not live with my parents(how are you supposed to bring a girl home or run on your treadmill at 3AM?)

but I suppose it would be nice to not pay rent or mortgage.

Repent

lol.
Well, at least he should put down the case of Twinkies and step away from the refrigerator.

#80 10-17-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by repent

lol,
you guys are too hard on seattle.

hes not icing down the steps hoping for his parents to meet an unfortunate end.

from what I can tell, he has a job and is somewhat self sufficient.
personally, i could not live with my parents(how are you supposed to bring a girl home or run on your treadmill at 3AM?)

but I suppose it would be nice to not pay rent or mortgage.

Repent

Repent,
Now how in the world can you expect the guy to drop a grand on a 3-5 shot each weekend and pay rentor a mortgage? I mean good Lord man, you have to have your priorities straight!!!!