My theory and feelings on Polytrack

[quote=pgardn]Wait a minute. It was not/is not a business in Europe, Japan, and Hong Kong? Holy sh it you got a story. You guys are digging in deeper.[/Q
When did they switch to all dirt racing? You are over your head Patrick. What you know about this business you could write on the back of a postage stamp and have room left over.
If you care to debate any specific fine point of it, you'll get mulched.

Originally Posted by oracle80

YOu talk to a lotta trainers and owners about hind end problems, and tendons do you?
Obviously not. You read what you read, and call it a fact.
You don't know the whole story.

Oracle you got a story then. We need you to write an article with sources (you gotta em all) that polytrack has more of an injury down side than dirt. And when did I say anything was a FACT. Read my post buddy. When did I write the word Fact?

Originally Posted by pba1817

What's god got to do with any of this??

Do you believe he created you? Do you believe he created horses? If not, I understand....you don't apply to this conversation if you don't believe in your creator....It requires that basis to drive my arguement home....the 'Big Bang' theory doesn't work here....

Originally Posted by pba1817

I sympathize with your situation, I truly do. But in all honesty, having such financial interest in the industry, you should have been as best prepared as you could for this change when it was announced a few years ago.

I think that the better breeds still drop the fastest horses, regardless of racing surface, some breeds will rise, some will fall, but overall I do not think there will be a major change of tides in the breeding industry.

Hehe. To each his own. This is changing every aspect of the game.

[quote=oracle80]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Wait a minute. It was not/is not a business in Europe, Japan, and Hong Kong? Holy sh it you got a story. You guys are digging in deeper.[/Q
When did they switch to all dirt racing? You are over your head Patrick. What you know about this business you could write on the back of a postage stamp and have room left over.
If you care to debate any specific fine point of it, you'll get mulched.

I dont need to debate any fine point. You just dissed a poster about injuries on a football field, and then did the same thing yourself with horses. Logic. How much of that fits on the back of a postage stamp?

And its guys like you who get stuck in ruts and cant handle change...you my friend will be the odd man out. If you cant roll with the punches, get out of the ring. I personally do not have a conclusive opinion about the stuff as I said before. You do. So write your story bud. And quit writing stuff that I did not post.

Originally Posted by pba1817

I sympathize with your situation, I truly do. But in all honesty, having such financial interest in the industry, you should have been as best prepared as you could for this change when it was announced a few years ago.

I think that the better breeds still drop the fastest horses, regardless of racing surface, some breeds will rise, some will fall, but overall I do not think there will be a major change of tides in the breeding industry.

Thanks for the advice, Socrates ...I suppose all of those men and women wearing our colors fighting over in Iraq right now should have been better prepared with their lives a few years ago too, right

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Do you believe he created you? Do you believe he created horses? If not, I understand....you don't apply to this conversation if you don't believe in your creator....It requires that basis to drive my arguement home....the 'Big Bang' theory doesn't work here....

Our beliefs about a creator are 100% irrelevant to the Polytrack situation... if this is your the way you need to go to justify your angle, then you probably should refrain from replying to any of my posts any longer....

Pgard,
If you can please answer as many of these questions as possible.

1) What is the average cost of maintaining a thoroughbred horse including vet bills, day rate by a trainer, shipping, and shoeing per year?

2) What percentage of owners show a profit on horses strictly through racing?

3) What is the formula for determining value of a sire before a stud deal is done?

4) Since the reformed tax legislation in the 80's which reversed the previous practice of being able to write off all horse racing business losses along with all other business losses, has ownership increased or decreased in thoroughbred horses?

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Thanks for the advice, Socrates ...I suppose all of those men and women wearing our colors fighting over in Iraq right now should have been better prepared with their lives a few years ago too, right

What in the hell is wrong with you?

Can you stay within the subject at hand?

It's very difficult to have a discussion with someone who cannot stay focused on the topic of the discussion.

Originally Posted by pba1817

Our beliefs about a creator are 100% irrelevant to the Polytrack situation... if this is your the way you need to go to justify your angle, then you probably should refrain from replying to any of my posts any longer....

Only scientologists would approve of a switch to polytrack. Heck if they had it their way the only people who could ride horses would be a minimum of a 7th level thetan.

Originally Posted by pba1817

Our beliefs about a creator are 100% irrelevant to the Polytrack situation... if this is your the way you need to go to justify your angle, then you probably should refrain from replying to any of my posts any longer....

Really, so lets get this straight then....God built fish to swim though rubber, he built birds to fly through rubber and he built horses to run through rubber, right?

There isn't anything worse than a guy who is a novice at best telling guys who aren't everything that they supposedly don't know.
It would be like me attempting to teach you about Physics Patrick.

[TitanSooner]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Thanks for the advice, Socrates ...I suppose all of those men and women wearing our colors fighting over in Iraq right now should have been better prepared with their lives a few years ago too, right

that's the dumbest, most disrespectful post I've ever read.

in fact, it's downright retarded.

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Really, so lets get this straight then....God built fish to swim though rubber, he built birds to fly through rubber and he built horses to run through rubber, right?

This post proves my point in the fact that you cannot keep your attention level long enough on the subject at hand in order to have a decent, fruitful debate.

Originally Posted by TitanSooner

that's the dumbest, most disrespectful post I've ever read.

in fact, it's downright retarded.

I think the point is that you can't always plan for stupidity, extreme measures, and propoganda. I see direct parallels in both situations.

Originally Posted by TitanSooner

that's the dumbest, most disrespectful post I've ever read.

in fact, it's downright retarded.

He has every right to be emotional about the subject. The comparison is a little extreme but I completely understand the point he is making.

Lets face it, sometimes change isn't good.

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by oracle80

There isn't anything worse than a guy who is a novice at best telling guys who aren't everything that they supposedly don't know.
It would be like me attempting to teach you about Physics Patrick.

Go through my posts and show me where I have not said anything that was not on point?

Originally Posted by TitanSooner

that's the dumbest, most disrespectful post I've ever read.

in fact, it's downright retarded.

Really, see I thought it was disrespectful for somebody who obviously has an elementary knowledge of the game that I should have "better prepared for the change to Polytrack" a few years ago. How in the HELL do you do that? Comon Buzz Chace, teach me!!!

Would you be prepared if an earthquake erupted in the earth directly under your house right now?.....What a moron

Originally Posted by pba1817

This post proves my point in the fact that you cannot keep your attention level long enough on the subject at hand in order to have a decent, fruitful debate.

No, it just proves to me that you don't have a comeback sharp enough to counter my logic....give it up, homie...

[TitanSooner]

I disagree. People are dying over there for us. Him worried about his career in the breeding business may be a problem, as we have all had career problems, but he's going to be ok.

dumb.dumb.dumb