1/28 (GP): $12MM Pegasus World Cup

[Secretriat34]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Can someone translate any or all of the last 2 posts for me? I can understand about as much of it as a conversation with the Hamburglar.

maybe you should try to get a higher education, or perhaps learn english as a second language

[Secretriat34]

Originally Posted by Pants II

The ***** hat is obviously restricting oxygen to his pea brain.

At least we'll have concern for the working man and "edgy" comedy again after the cowards were silent for 8 years.

Now all of a sudden they care about people outside of Panem.

I thought the post about the horse mr president was as about as funny as one could get, it linked racing, with current politics and the latest gossip , which is by the way americas number one industry, gossip..i really expected more positive thoughts on the humor..oh well maybe i'll wallow in the sour grapes of defeat like all the demoncraps

[ADJMK]

Originally Posted by ScottJ

Again, I find myself being one of the nay-sayers when I see numbers like those from this posted. These purely business points that suggest that the Pegasus World Cup will not be a long term fixture.

[1] There appears to be absolutely no interest in broadcasting this race as it has very limited national appeal despite the Chrome vs. Arrogate rematch. We are one week out from the race and I have not seen anything on NBC or any other national network discussing the race. TVG has provided some coverage.

[2] According to what I read this morning, gate admission to Gulfstream is $100.00 per person on Pegasus day not to mention parking passes $50.00) and all of the other up-charges. What is the expected attendance for that type of gate charge? Will Gulfstream attract over or under 12,000 people for that kind of money? Personally, I would go under.

[3] If your entry finishes third or worse, completely possible given the field structure, how quickly are you ready to fire another speculative million at the pot for next year? (Maybe there are outfits lined up to kick in their $1,000,000? Who are they?)

[4] Wait until the post position draw this week. Put both Arrogate and Chrome in the ten, eleven, or twelve posts and your marquee match-up suddenly is upended. Worse, put only one of them in the outside slots.

I guess people are willing to pay those kind of prices for other sporting events or rock concerts but I agree with you and can't see them breaking the gates down to get in. Will be a lot of so called "celebs" attending on their free tickets.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Horrific draw for California Chrome. Going 9F at GP from the 12 hole is a death sentence. Tough break.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Horrific draw for California Chrome. Going 9F at GP from the 12 hole is a death sentence. Tough break.

Is this the excuse?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Is this the excuse?

It is a very real excuse....and exactly the one you would be using for Arrogate had the post positions been reversed.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Is this the excuse?

It's a sad reality Joey.

[Kasept]

PEGASUS CUP CARD OVERNIGHT

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Is this the excuse?

Stats don't lie. If it's not an issue then they should put 10lbs on Arrogate.

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by ScottJ

[4] Wait until the post position draw this week. Put both Arrogate and Chrome in the ten, eleven, or twelve posts and your marquee match-up suddenly is upended. Worse, put only one of them in the outside slots.

Well, look at this outcome. Can Chrome be any better than four or five wide in that first turn if pressing towards the top? Alternatively, can the horse close from ten lengths off the pace if they decide not to leave with him?

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Stats don't lie. If it's not an issue then they should put 10lbs on Arrogate.

Not a handicap race - my original point in this entire thread!

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It is a very real excuse....and exactly the one you would be using for Arrogate had the post positions been reversed.

Completely agree, Andy, and exactly why I wanted this race to go at 10f (even close to 11f based on the track) to get rid of the post position bias.

[declansharbor]

About what % of Eclipse Award ceremony attendees do you think were elated when the post was drawn after having to endure P Martin's whacky speech?! They're really going to have to earn it from out that far wide, that's for sure (CC & DAP Racing) !

[Alabama Stakes]

Hoss likes to be outside of hosses, shouldn't be a problem. Arrogate is the main problem, keen ice is the other problem. He will take some beating for sure.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by Secretriat34

maybe you should try to get a higher education, or perhaps learn english as a second language

I just got this reply from Secretriat!

Not Dr. Fagre or Spectaculer Bid or Seebiscuit or Roughian, but the great SECRETRIAT!

[cakes44]

Does Chrome still go favored?

This just seems like a perfect opportunity to double my money because of a sentimental favorite. Any chance in the world at Arrogate going 6/5?

[Kasept]

3rd (12:30) Hurricane Bertie S. (G3)

7 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Genre Velazquez J R 123 L
2 Distinta Zayas E J 117 L
3 Curlin's Approval Saez L 117 L
4 Sugar Cone Bravo J 117 L
5 You Bought Her Lanerie C J 119 L
6 Improv Castellano J J 117 L
7 Bodacious Babe Lopez P 121 L
8 Linda Linda (CHI) Lezcano J 119 L



5th (1:30) Poseidon H.

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Mylute Gaffalione T 115 L
2 Ranger in Paradise Colon L H 111 L
3 Imperative Gallardo A A 118 L
4 Stanford Velazquez J R 120 L
5 Cherry Wine Lanerie C J 113 L
6 Madefromlucky Castellano J J 117 L
7 Papa Zulu Contreras L 112 L
8 Fearless Dragon Lopez P 110 L
9 Hy Riverside Ortiz J L 116 L



7th (2:32) Ladies' Turf Sprint S.

5 Furlongs (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $125,000

1 My Sister Caro Gallardo A A 116 L
2 Moon River (IRE) Rosario J 118 L
3 Ruby Notion Velazquez J R 116 L
4 Blue Bahia McCarthy T 116 L
5 Artesian Zayas E J 116 L
6 Brandy's Girl Lezcano J 118 L
7 Bibby Lanerie C J 118 L
8 Pretty Perfection Juarez N 118 L
9 Spectacular Me Ortiz J L 120 L
10 Triple Chelsea Garcia W A 120 L
11 Nite Delite Lopez P 118 L
12 Everything Lovely Castellano J J 118 L



9th (3:38) Gulfstream Park Turf Sprint S.

5 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $125,000

1 Rainbow Heir McCarthy T 120 L
2 Manhattan Dan Castellano J J 116 L
3 Long On Value Rosario J 120 L
4 Platinum Prince Saez L 116 L
5 Divine Warrior Gaffalione T 116 L
6 El Deal Zayas E J 118 L
7 Doctor J Dub Panici L 122 L
8 Super Spender Juarez N 120 L
9 Pay Any Price Castillo L A 116 L
10 Mongolian Saturday Montalvo C 122
11 Power Alert (AUS) Leparoux J R 120 L
12 Incensed Garcia W A 116 L



10th (4:14) La Prevoyante H. (G3)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Quiet Kitten Gaffalione T 117 L
2 Gypsy Eyes (IRE) Saez L 117 L
3 Try Your Luck Geroux F 121 L
4 Desiree Clary (GER) Castellano J J 119 L
5 Stay the Night Juarez N 117 L
6 Promotional Lezcano J 117 L
7 Arles (FR) Rosario J 117 L
8 Lobelia Lanerie C J 117 L
9 Flipcup Velazquez J R 119 L
10 Wapi (CHI) Leparoux J R 119 L
11 Paige Lopez P 121 L
12 Suffused (GB) Ortiz J L 123 L



11th (4:50) W. L. McKnight H. (G3)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Taghleeb Gaffalione T 121 L
2 Montclair (IRE) Prado E S 117 L
3 Diamond Bachelor Saez L 119 L
4 Danish Dynaformer Rosario J 121 L
5 Applicator Reyes L 117 L
6 Charming Kitten Smith M E 119 L
7 Twilight Eclipse Ortiz J L 119 L
8 Generous Kitten Geroux F 117 L
9 Patterson Cross Lezcano J 117 L
10 Mr Maybe Castellano J J 121 L
11 Sadler's Joy Leparoux J R 117 L
12 Hunter O'Riley Velazquez J R 117 L



12th (5:40) Pegasus World Cup Invitational S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $12,000,000

1 Arrogate Smith M E 124 L
2 Prayer for Relief Geroux F 124 L
3 Neolithic Velazquez J R 124 L
4 Noble Bird Leparoux J R 124 L
5 War Story Gallardo A A 124 L
6 War Envoy Saez L 124 L
7 Shaman Ghost Ortiz J L 124 L
8 Semper Fortis Gaffalione T 124 L
9 Keen Ice Castellano J J 124 L
10 Breaking Lucky Contreras L 124 L
11 Eragon (ARG) Prado E S 119
12 California Chrome Espinoza V 124 L
AE Stanford Velazquez J R 124 L
AE Sea Raven Contreras L 124 L
AE Madefromlucky Castellano J J 124 L

[knickslions2]

This is brutal for chrome. Interesting to see how fast noble bird goes early.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Hoss likes to be outside of hosses, shouldn't be a problem. Arrogate is the main problem, keen ice is the other problem. He will take some beating for sure.

Keen Ice? And you were serious?

[Alabama Stakes]

I meant that chrome would take some beating. Should have worded that better.
Keen ice is contender on best effort.....like when he won the Travers.