Holiday Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Well if 90% of twitter thought it was right, it must’ve been. As everyone knows, twitter is infallible with its opinions. And Durkin mentioning a dropped whip is nothing like what you said, but you know that. No need to pander to me Vic.

You blocked me on Twitter. That’s a fact. Not sure why you’re pretending you didn’t but I’m sure you have an excuse.

You’re free to think what you want about your chances head to head. It’s all talk because you’d never take me on head to head with the outcome being one of us has to leave social media. You couldn’t live without the attention. You need it. I don’t. You desperately need to remind people how special you think you are and without it you’d go crazy.

Of course you care about what I say. If you didn’t you wouldn’t have cried and begged me for years to stop calling you out. Again, I see you for EXACTLY what you are. You can’t fool me. And it kills you inside. You don’t want losers like Alabama Stakes thinking you’re cool. Everyone can see that.

I blocked you on Twitter because your hateful ways on that forum are much more in the mainstream. They can be read by members of my family, people I work with and for. Participants in the industry that I know, admire and respect. There's no way I'll allow myself to stoop to your hateful level. I won't get into any of the vitriol there. I have over 11,000 followers and won't subject them to someone a vile as you.

I can't stop you from what you say. But I will not involve myself in any way.

I'm very active on Twitter and try to be a positive constructive influence as well as an ambassador for our sport. That's why you don't exist there.

Here on the other hand is much more free form. While I still won't ever be baited into vulgarity. I will trade punches here.

Think of yourself as sitting at the Thanksgiving KIDS table.

That's the ONLY run you'll ever get from me.

[blackthroatedwind]

Someone needs a timeout.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Someone needs a timeout.

If you're saying it's me.

I'm about to take one.

I'm 63 years old and today getting my first and most likely last tattoo.

It was a family Christmas idea run amok.

Full report after I stop crying like a baby.

BTW, interested in the Saratoga challenge?

What an opportunity for the man with the best opinion in NY to shut up the Wicked Blowhard of the West!

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

I blocked you on Twitter because your hateful ways on that forum are much more in the mainstream. They can be read by members of my family, people I work with and for. Participants in the industry that I know, admire and respect. There's no way I'll allow myself to stoop to your hateful level. I won't get into any of the vitriol there. I have over 11,000 followers and won't subject them to someone a vile as you.

I can't stop you from what you say. But I will not involve myself in any way.

I'm very active on Twitter and try to be a positive constructive influence as well as an ambassador for our sport. That's why you don't exist there.

Here on the other hand is much more free form. While I still won't ever be baited into vulgarity. I will trade punches here.

Think of yourself as sitting at the Thanksgiving KIDS table.

That's the ONLY run you'll ever get from me.

More pandering.

What you're saying is, because Twitter is a wider audience, you're afraid I'll let too many people know about what a scumbag you are and that'll ruin your BS. You want to act high and mighty there but have no problem being a little more real here. Interesting.

The fact that I've been able to get whatever run I wanted out of you for YEARS speaks more about you than me.

You're absolutely right when you allude to me being a nobody in the industry. That's my choice.

Just like it's your choice to embarrass the industry. I don't need to remind everyone all the instances. But make no mistake, you embarrass the industry you work in.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

If you're saying it's me.

I'm about to take one.

I'm 63 years old and today getting my first and most likely last tattoo.

It was a family Christmas idea run amok.

Full report after I stop crying like a baby.

BTW, interested in the Saratoga challenge?

What an opportunity for the man with the best opinion in NY to shut up the Wicked Blowhard of the West!

It would be best if you challenged Beyer might as well shoot for the top. Have a heart, Vic.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

More pandering.

What you're saying is, because Twitter is a wider audience, you're afraid I'll let too many people know about what a scumbag you are and that'll ruin your BS. You want to act high and mighty there but have no problem being a little more real here. Interesting.

The fact that I've been able to get whatever run I wanted out of you for YEARS speaks more about you than me.

You're absolutely right when you allude to me being a nobody in the industry. That's my choice.

Just like it's your choice to embarrass the industry. I don't need to remind everyone all the instances. But make no mistake, you embarrass the industry you work in.

You could be right. But it's just one opinion.

I've been in the industry you say I've embarrassed for 45 years.

There are some who don't agree with your opinion.

Originally Posted by freddymo

It would be best if you challenged Beyer might as well shoot for the top. Have a heart, Vic.

A wonderful man who has put his indelible stamp on racing forever.

Andy's more of a Maryland circuit guy.

I'll stick with Andy and DA-WHATEVER.

I wanna beat the best.

I'm afraid they aren't going to accept the challenge.

I wouldn't if I were them.

Still holding out hope.

[blackthroatedwind]

Someone needs a timeout and a hobby.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Someone needs a timeout and a hobby.

My hobbies are Broadway Musicals, golf and boogie boarding.

Been to EVERY show both Little Rock and Memphis has to offer.

The weather hasn't been conducive to golf.

Try as I might I haven't been able to find any waves in Hot Springs.

1 hour 3 minutes until......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cvXL9PyX2k

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Did you block me on twitter?

On Twitter you can still read the Tweets of people who you've blocked.

I've read yours.

A very small fraction are about me.

The rest are cruel, hateful, disgusting and worse.

Seemingly from a very dark place.

Aren't there any people in your life that you wouldn't want to see that hate and vulgarity?

People who look up to you?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

You could be right. But it's just one opinion.

I've been in the industry you say I've embarrassed for 45 years.

There are some who don't agree with your opinion.

Never misses an opportunity to mention how long he's worked in the industry. You want a trophy or a cookie?

Yet, after your critique of Bejarano how many in the industry backed you up? Better yet, how many people in the industry ever back you up, whether it be here or on Twitter?

Think about that and think about why that might be.

As you say, just one opinion. But you'd think someone who has been in the industry for as long as your have would have more respect from his peers. I'd think someone of your stature would have more than 11k twitter followers.

Just one opinion of course.

[blackthroatedwind]

Just like how unlikely it is that any horse ever surpasses Secretariat's Belmont with the best performance ever, who would have thought that one day SCUDSBROTHER would be the second worst poster in Derby Trail history.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Never misses an opportunity to mention how long he's worked in the industry. You want a trophy or a cookie?

Yet, after your critique of Bejarano how many in the industry backed you up? Better yet, how many people in the industry ever back you up, whether it be here or on Twitter?

Think about that and think about why that might be.

As you say, just one opinion. But you'd think someone who has been in the industry for as long as your have would have more respect from his peers. I'd think someone of your stature would have more than 11k twitter followers.

Just one opinion of course.

[size="7"]COOKIE!!

I've got lots of trophy's

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

On Twitter you can still read the Tweets of people who you've blocked.

I've read yours.

A very small fraction are about me.

The rest are cruel, hateful, disgusting and worse.

Seemingly from a very dark place.

Aren't there any people in your life that you wouldn't want to see that hate and vulgarity?

People who look up to you?

Seems odd to block someone and then read their tweets. Almost like I'm in your head or something.

The rest is so laughable it's not even worth my time.

Cool tattoo by the way. You should have gotten a tattoo on your lower back that reads "The Panderer"

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Seems odd to block someone and then read their tweets. Almost like I'm in your head or something.

The rest is so laughable it's not even worth my time.

Cool tattoo by the way. You should have gotten a tattoo on your lower back that reads "The Panderer"

Lot's of things you don't seem to want to respond to.

Your behavior and how it impacts the people around you.

The offer of the Saratoga contest?

Truth be told if you could replicate last year I probably wouldn't win.

You were close to $2.00 ROI which taint easy McGee.

But I expect we'll never know because you don't have the guts to take me on.

Glad you liked the tattoo.

I'll take the "panderer" suggestion under advisement.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Lot's of things you don't seem to want to respond to.

Your behavior and how it impacts the people around you.

The offer of the Saratoga contest?

Truth be told if you could replicate last year I probably wouldn't win.

You were close to $2.00 ROI which taint easy McGee.

But I expect we'll never know because you don't have the guts to take me on.

Glad you liked the tattoo.

I'll take the "panderer" suggestion under advisement.

It’s not a matter of not wanting to respond to it, you have no idea what you’re talking about. You don’t know me. You don’t know anything about me. To presume anything about me or the people around me is hilarious.

Then again, I’ve never had my car repossessed from my workplace like you have so maybe you’re projecting. I can’t imagine that was a proud moment for the Stauffer clan.

You’re the one that blocked me….and then admitted to reading my tweets. Why is that? Why don’t you want to discuss that?

You ignored my point that no one in the industry ever supports you. Even here. Mountaineer Mark doesn’t count because no one in the industry takes him serious anyway (except for you). Why did you not want to discuss that?

As we get closer to Saratoga and if you haven’t totally gone off the deep end by then we can look at some sort of head to head. Not sure what figuring out something 7 months in advance will accomplish but my guess is this is your desperate attempt to save face after yet another embarrassing encounter with me. It didn’t work. No one cares Vic.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

It’s not a matter of not wanting to respond to it, you have no idea what you’re talking about. You don’t know me. You don’t know anything about me. To presume anything about me or the people around me is hilarious.

Then again, I’ve never had my car repossessed from my workplace like you have so maybe you’re projecting. I can’t imagine that was a proud moment for the Stauffer clan.

You’re the one that blocked me….and then admitted to reading my tweets. Why is that? Why don’t you want to discuss that?

You ignored my point that no one in the industry ever supports you. Even here. Mountaineer Mark doesn’t count because no one in the industry takes him serious anyway (except for you). Why did you not want to discuss that?

As we get closer to Saratoga and if you haven’t totally gone off the deep end by then we can look at some sort of head to head. Not sure what figuring out something 7 months in advance will accomplish but my guess is this is your desperate attempt to save face after yet another embarrassing encounter with me. It didn’t work. No one cares Vic.

I told you why I won't deal with you on Twitter.

I guess I read what you say for the same reason people look at car accidents.

There's no doubt that what you post on Twitter. The Hate, The Accusations and all the rest. Nothing can explain that away. Just reprehensible behavior. It would be super awful and shameful if Vic never existed. So bad.

If I don't go off the deep end. The offer will stand in 7 months. Will you stand up and back up all your blither? Or just continue to deflect?

It'll be fun whipping your tail. Won't be able to deflect and explain THAT away.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

I told you why I won't deal with you on Twitter.

I guess I read what you say for the same reason people look at car accidents.

There's no doubt that what you post on Twitter. The Hate, The Accusations and all the rest. Nothing can explain that away. Just reprehensible behavior. It would be super awful and shameful if Vic never existed. So bad.

If I don't go off the deep end. The offer will stand in 7 months. Will you stand up and back up all your blither? Or just continue to deflect?

It'll be fun whipping your tail. Won't be able to deflect and explain THAT away.

Speaking of cars….how embarrassing was it for your family when yours got repossessed from the parking lot of your job?

How about when you tried to steal a gig from a fellow announcer?

How about when you bullied a fellow announcer and cheered when the track he announced at closed?

I don’t know too many people that get fired via email but it speaks volumes about how they felt about you as an employee and a person.

I’m sure all proud moments in your life and things your family speaks about proudly at get togethers.

Lots of things you don’t seem to want to respond to.

Your behavior and how it impacts the people around you.

Nothing can explain the way you’ve carried yourself and presented yourself for all these years. That’s why no one in the industry likes you. That’s why no one in the industry respects you. That’s why no one in the industry defends you when you mess up.

Let me know how much further you want to go here. I can keep going but even I’m starting to feel bad for you.

[freddymo]

All this colorful content because I was anxious about the LaBrea v Malibu fig. Who Knew?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

You need new material.

Speaking of the announcer I bullied.

He's at it again. I don't know how to post a tweet. But he said on Twitter yesterday.....

Craigey B.
@callstheraces
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My list of tracks I do not watch or wager on because I do not like the race calls on offer continues to grow. This goes on much longer I will be down to about 5 tracks I like!

He got my goat a decade ago when he called out Tom Durkin.

Some people never learn.

I didn't respond on Twitter for the same reason I won't engage you over there.

But a current announcer saying all but 5 fellow announcers are unlistenable?

Someone who knows how difficult what we do is?

He earned himself a seat at the BLOCK chain window. Right alongside you.

But I'll still probably read what he writes.

I'm going to try one more time, maybe it'll sink in. I'm actually really glad you posted this though.

You've been working in the industry for 40 plus years. You've called some of the biggest races and have also done pretty well as a handicapper in tournaments. Why would someone who is actually a name in the industry lower themselves to worrying about tweets by someone who is not at your level?

What could you possibly gain by doing this?

From my understanding Craig reached out to Durkin and they had a discussion. So other than needing to bully someone lower on the totem pole than you, what is your deal?

Spare me the announcer brotherhood stuff. You didn't care about that when you tried to steal Wrona's job. You didn't care about that when you publicly cheered when the track Craig was announcing at closed, and he'd be losing a job.

Other than you're a bully and a bad person, I can't think of any reason why you'd waste a minute on this stuff.

Would Tom Durkin behave like you? Trevor Denman? Travis? Frank M? Larry? The list goes on and on. All of these announcers don't do the things you do and they still remain relevant.

You say you're a positive force in the sport and than behave like trash. I get it, you think you do no wrong but not all people are as dumb as Ass.hole Stakes. People see you for what you are. Maybe some aren't as vocal as I am, but you don't fool everyone.

Maybe if you stopped trying so hard to appear as a good guy and were actually just a good guy you'd stay out of trouble.

These are the reasons I think you're a POS. You actually have a voice and the chance to represent the sport well and I think you don't. Everything is about you. You think you're bigger than it all. That's on you.

Durkin was the GOAT, but he never made it about him. He was humble, he made it seem like he was lucky for the sport. Your attitude is the sport is lucky to have you.