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12-01-2006, 09:06 AM
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Breaks are always good. This game can toy with your emotions.
Looks like this thread turned into a cat fight. Work it out guys. Hooves, you should advise everybody else on here as to who to use and who not to use. Its apparent you are in the know. 
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12-01-2006, 09:11 AM
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there are many talented cappers on this board mike is one of them ..ive also gone through a bad spell..lets face it it happens......and people who play with there own money make better decisions...
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12-01-2006, 09:28 AM
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Oracle, what I dont like is when you say that you hope Victor gets hurt. I cannot believe that someone would wish injury to another person in this game. That is real childish and perhaps you need to learn to accept your losses better.
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12-01-2006, 09:33 AM
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you dont know the half of it..spot on !!!!!!!
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#66
12-01-2006, 09:48 AM
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Do you reread this crap before posting it or do you actually want to continue to pretend that somehow you have some clever insight into racewatching and others here don't? Do you think these off-hand insults of other posters, while you pretend to be some huge winning gambler, vis-a-vis your racewatching skills of course, will go unnoticed and unanswered? You want to tell us that there is more than one way to watch a race, fine, but this " I know...they don't " BS is as preposterous as it is insulting. Well, I think the horse that is the subject of this conversation was " shut off " because it simply did not have enough horse to make the move with the eventual winner, and the horse was hardly " shut off " with a full head of steam, and was in fact barely checked, and then eased out facily at the top of the stretch and backed up. You want a comparison? Relaxed Gesture in the Sword Dancer. Everybody jumped all over the ride, and it was a poor one, but the simple fact is the horse had nothing....and that was proven in subsequent starts. You are simply making excuses for a losing pick, instead of blaming yourself as you should, seeing if you should make some adjustments in your handicapping, and moving forward from there. Always blaming someone else will keep a horseplayer from having any chance of winning. And, yes, I have hit many Pick-6s, some for very good money, and I have championed ALL the tickets and used money of my own.
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12-01-2006, 11:10 AM
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By the way, we hit the small one on Sunday. You trying to represent hittiing one, and then going 5 outta 6 with a loss with a troubled trip in an 81 grand payout and attempting misrpresent it as a "cold streak" is indeed comical. I dunno where you get a bad spell outta that.
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12-01-2006, 11:11 AM
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The horses in that race were a pretty well matched group.Nobody in there could afford to have to overcome trouble(if they were going to win.)That much I know.Her chances at a win went in the toilet when she got stopped.It may not look like it was a nail in the coffin,but she couldn't afford it.If she doesn't get stopped,she comes top 2(I don't know which.)
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12-01-2006, 11:13 AM
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Lansdon and the pik-6's is fun stuff for us, and we've done real well, but its sure not what my income is derived upon, and sure not what I count on to survive.
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12-01-2006, 11:15 AM
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If that's true, and I can't dispute it one way or another because I didn't look at the pps, then she was a HORRENDOUS bet at 6:5.
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12-01-2006, 11:17 AM
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12-01-2006, 11:19 AM
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You know, not every horse is Taste of Paradise(in the BC 2005), as a matter of fact most are not. Lester Piggott was quoted as saying he felt that 50% of the horses he ever rode were not trying. Thats probably a low number. WHile we marvel at horses like Invasor who battle on, and Discreet cat, horses who obviously have both talent and heart, the fact is that most do not. The difference between a restricted stakes winner and a 35 claimer is often just heart. You toss heart into the 35 claimer and hes a restricted stakes winner. You take the heart out of a restricted stakes winner and hes a 35 claimer. I bought lans a horse like that. She wasn't the most talented mare in the world, but she had teh heart of a lion and never once in her career did she surrender the lead when she had it in stretch. She was a restricted stakes winner. You take her heart away and shes a claimer. Noone in that race, had any heart, including the winner who was 2-14 with 4 2nds. You can't rev one up and say go, then say stop, and get em to unwind again. You see it every day whether its Finger Lakes or Hollywood or beulah. You'll see a horse making a run get checked and then just stop. Most of em will chuck it when halted, they just don't have the guts. This filly sure as hell wasn't Ruffian, thats for sure. Before she got stopped she was tugging at the bit and moving great. Antongeorgi gave his mare a great ride, and didn't allow the veteran rider to go through a hole that wasn't there. Whatever, there is a small one today at the Big A unless they cancel due to the winds. Thats today's mission. Last edited by oracle80 : 12-01-2006 at 11:22 AM.
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12-01-2006, 11:21 AM
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I had her pegged as a co fave with the 8 in my own mind. I originally had 1,3,8 in the race but when they scratched the 3 I decided to single the race and go for more horses in the other leg. I would not say that taking her at 6-5 in a win bet was real bright. Completely agree with that.
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12-01-2006, 11:21 AM
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I was waiting for that... I am well aware that playing Pick-6s is about surviving each leg, however singling a 6:5 shot in a percieved evenly matched and open field would be a terrible play ( I know....you said it was evenly matched and not Mike...as he couldn't have felt that way ), so it can hardly be used as an excuse for that horse losing by the person who made the play.
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12-01-2006, 11:23 AM
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what did that six play cost you...900 or so..bogey hit last week on a 250 buck ticket..anyone that listens to your capping skills with a open check book should have his head looked at..the fact that you have hit a few by betting a n insane amount of money does not make you a legend..i hit mine in toga on a 18 buck ticket..we have been noses away for 40 g on a 72 dollar play...our pick six synd from before would have hit for 40k again if not for your chime in on on caramooch as a single...please mike save the bs for your EXCLUSIVE CLIENT...lmfao
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12-01-2006, 11:23 AM
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12-01-2006, 11:26 AM
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I'm helping make claims for one owner, and have a zillion guys who need horses. I'm on the phone all day long looking for them. Market's toiugh right now. Looks like I may have gotten a fellow Derby trailer a nice one at the right price. I haven't even looked at the pik-6 yet today at Aqueduct other than a casual glance. Its not high on my things to do list.
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12-01-2006, 11:26 AM
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If somebody costs you a shot at 40 or 50k(or even 10% of that,) then it is normal to want them punished in some physical way.Then,it is also normal for that desire to pass(hopefully sooner than later.)
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12-01-2006, 11:28 AM
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12-01-2006, 11:29 AM
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