CONTESSA: "..wanted to throw up"

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Bystander

I don't know, the mistake cost $25,000, didn't it? And isn't Contessa accountable to Darlene Bilinski and Harry Patten, having to explain why their horse missed a $30,000 check?
I bet there's a bit more said than "don't let it happen again."

"Please don't do it again?"

[Bystander]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

"Please don't do it again?"

"Thank you very much."

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Bystander

I don't know, the mistake cost $25,000, didn't it? And isn't Contessa accountable to Darlene Bilinski and Harry Patten, having to explain why their horse missed a $30,000 check?
I bet there's a bit more said than "don't let it happen again."

It may be much worse than just losing the money. When a horse is forced to check like that, they often times come out of the race with injuries. I owned a filly once that was bottled up on the rail turning for home. The jock checked pretty good off heels but the rail did open up and he got through and won. That was the good news. The bad news was that she wrenched her ankle pretty bad and we had to put a blister on her and turn her out for a couple of months. Two months at the farm means no racing for 6 months. Luckily the horse came back off the 6 month layoff as good as ever, but a 6 month layoff costs a lot of money in terms of expenses.

[Bystander]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

It may be much worse than just losing the money. When a horse is forced to check like that, they often times come out of the race with injuries. I owned a filly once that was bottled up on the rail turning for home. The jock checked pretty good off heels but the rail did open up and he got through and won. That was the good news. The bad news was that she wrenched her ankle pretty bad and we had to put a blister on her and turn her out for a couple of months. Two months at the farm means no racing for 6 months. Luckily the horse came back off the 6 month layoff as good as ever, but a 6 month layoff costs a lot of money in terms of expenses.

That's rough, very sorry to hear it.
I was going for the untheoretical, blatant result of the ride.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

terrible ride? yes.

but, my goodness, you just took hyperbole to an unprecedented level.

Well, Brian, in the vast encyclopedia of rides in your memory why don't you come up with a few more baffling decisions. Be sure they were simple situations in races that absolutely cost the horses involved victory.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Bystander

I don't know, the mistake cost $25,000, didn't it? And isn't Contessa accountable to Darlene Bilinski and Harry Patten, having to explain why their horse missed a $30,000 check?
I bet there's a bit more said than "don't let it happen again."

He's riding for them on Sunday - 2nd race aboard "Keep your Day Job".

The Irony is painful.

Wanna see the ride of his life? I won't be betting against him....

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Well, Brian, in the vast encyclopedia of rides in your memory why don't you come up with a few more baffling decisions. Be sure they were simple situations in races that absolutely cost the horses involved victory.

There are not many more baffling rides in my memory. However, I am 23. I watch about 8 races a day. I have only been following racings since I was 16.

So my "vast" encyclopedia probably adds up to somewhere around roughly one ten thousandth of a percent of all the races in "history."

So who cares if I can name them?

One of the dumber ones I've seen? Sure, I'll give you that.

To assume it is one of the dumbest/most puzzling in history (mind you, not that you've ever seen, or in the last ten years, but you claim "history)? That seems folly, purely from a mathematical standpoint.

[ninetoone]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

He's riding for them on Sunday - 2nd race aboard "Keep your Day Job".

The Irony is painful.

Wanna see the ride of his life? I won't be betting against him....

that's funny

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

There are not many more baffling rides in my memory. However, I am 23. I watch about 8 races a day. I have only been following racings since I was 16.

So my "vast" encyclopedia probably adds up to somewhere around roughly one ten thousandth of a percent of all the races in "history."

So who cares if I can name them?

One of the dumber ones I've seen? Sure, I'll give you that.

To assume it is one of the dumbest/most puzzling in history (mind you, not that you've ever seen, or in the last ten years, but you claim "history)? That seems folly, purely from a mathematical standpoint.

So, let's see, you claim to have been watching 8 races a day, or approximately 2500 races a year for seven years, or over 17,000 races yet are unable to come up with a more baffling ride.

Was this the BEST criticism you could come up with of my posts ( in some pathetic attempt to defend another poster in this thread I assume )?

Next time, if you don't have something to add to the discussion, an opinion about what was actually being discussed, and simply have a pathetic and desperate need to attack the poster and not the issue, keep your fingers off the keyboard.

Thanks in advance.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So, let's see, you claim to have been watching 8 races a day, or approximately 2500 races a year for seven years, or over 17,000 races yet are unable to come up with a more baffling ride.

Was this the BEST criticism you could come up with of my posts ( in some pathetic attempt to defend another poster in this thread I assume )?

Next time, if you don't have something to add to the discussion, an opinion about what was actually being discussed, and simply have a pathetic and desperate need to attack the poster and not the issue, keep your fingers off the keyboard.

Thanks in advance.

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.

First, I didn't defend anyone in this thread. I didn't "attack" you one bit. I didn't call you names. I didn't do anything but point out that you indulged in a bit of hyperbole in one post. It wasn't a criticism of anything you've said in regards to the entire ride, except that I found it mathematically unlikely that it was one of the worst rides in history.

Is that really what you consider an "attack?" Seriously?

Secondly, I said it was a terrible ride. I said that my "history" is such a tiny bit of the overall history, that it doesn't matter how many I can think of. But for starters, I'd say the stakes on closing day at Turf Paradise two or three years back when the rider misjudged the length of the race by an entire 7 furlongs would have been a dumber, more puzzling ride than this one. So, if in 17,000 races, I can think of even ONE ride more dumb or puzzling than this one....how does that bode for its place as one of the dumbest rides "in history?"

I generally steer clear from anything you post, agree or not, because you're a total loose cannon and are liable to fly off the handle at any second....ie, right now.

[Cajungator26]

*Sitting on my hands.*

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.

First, I didn't defend anyone in this thread. I didn't "attack" you one bit. I didn't call you names. I didn't do anything but point out that you indulged in a bit of hyperbole in one post. It wasn't a criticism of anything you've said in regards to the entire ride, except that I found it mathematically unlikely that it was one of the worst rides in history.

Is that really what you consider an "attack?" Seriously?

Secondly, I said it was a terrible ride. I said that my "history" is such a tiny bit of the overall history, that it doesn't matter how many I can think of. But for starters, I'd say the stakes on closing day at Turf Paradise two or three years back when the rider misjudged the length of the race by an entire 7 furlongs would have been a dumber, more puzzling ride than this one. So, if in 17,000 races, I can think of even ONE ride more dumb or puzzling than this one....how does that bode for its place as one of the dumbest rides "in history?"

I generally steer clear from anything you post, agree or not, because you're a total loose cannon and are liable to fly off the handle at any second....ie, right now.

I guess your final paragraph wasn't personal either.

The deletion of your initial " apology " was a real knee slapper.

The simple fact is you made an unnecessary post directed towards me and are now compounding it by being further insulting.

Good to know.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

*Sitting on my hands.*

lol
you type that with your nose??

and does it tickle to sit on your hands??

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

lol
you type that with your nose??

and does it tickle to sit on your hands??

Hehe... I used my toes. My nose is definitely big enough, though!

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I guess your final paragraph wasn't personal either.

The deletion of your initial " apology " was a real knee slapper.

The simple fact is you made an unnecessary post directed towards me and are now compounding it by being further insulting.

Good to know.

The final paragraph was personal, surely. An observation that I am certainly not alone in making -- I'm just not really that afraid anymore of saying it to you because you spend half of your time on the forums demeaning other posters for what seems like nothing more than the fun of it. There's nothing respectable about that. It really sucks too, because you're a smart guy who knows a lot about racing and any respect you gain from many forum members for your knowledge and insight is squandered when you accuse other posters of personal "attacks" in the same post in which you attack them. Somebody here's gotta call a spade a spade, eh?

Your definition of "unnecessary" is that you don't feel like reading it. I felt like posting to point out your hyperbole, therefore it was wildly necessary. Now we're just arguing semantics.

And yes, now I'm starting to border on insulting -- but in touch enough with the reality of the situation to admit it. My best. Not sure where I'd need to apologize.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

The final paragraph was personal, surely. An observation that I am certainly not alone in making -- I'm just not really that afraid anymore of saying it to you because you spend half of your time on the forums demeaning other posters for what seems like nothing more than the fun of it. There's nothing respectable about that. It really sucks too, because you're a smart guy who knows a lot about racing and any respect you gain from many forum members for your knowledge and insight is squandered when you accuse other posters of personal "attacks" in the same post in which you attack them. Somebody here's gotta call a spade a spade, eh?

Your definition of "unnecessary" is that you don't feel like reading it. I felt like posting to point out your hyperbole, therefore it was wildly necessary. Now we're just arguing semantics.

And yes, now I'm starting to border on insulting -- but in touch enough with the reality of the situation to admit it. My best. Not sure where I'd need to apologize.

Oh it's so easy for you to say this silliness. I hope you feel better.

Well, since I tend to be the one that garners a lot of ol' blackie's attacks (I almost crave them now... love ya, bitch!), and its throwing the rest of you off kelter (is that really a word?), i'll just add my two cents so he can focus on his favorite target. I think it was the best ride in the HISTORY of the sport, and I happen to know this since i've seen every race ever run and im practically a divine being.

Here kitty kitty kitty... come to mama. Im all wet and waiting for you my big man.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.

First, I didn't defend anyone in this thread. I didn't "attack" you one bit. I didn't call you names. I didn't do anything but point out that you indulged in a bit of hyperbole in one post. It wasn't a criticism of anything you've said in regards to the entire ride, except that I found it mathematically unlikely that it was one of the worst rides in history.

...for starters, I'd say the stakes on closing day at Turf Paradise two or three years back when the rider misjudged the length of the race by an entire 7 furlongs...

I remember that race. I also remember Desormeaux blowing the finish line on Kotashaan in a race about 10-12 years ago in Japan. And of course, the worst instance was Shoemaker misjudging the finish line in the KY Derby while riding Gallant Man, probably costing him the win.

But the thing is, if you take all the bad decisions jockeys have made in a race over, say, the last 10 years and you make a "Top X" list, yesterday's ride probably has to be included in that list no matter how small you make X. As someone pointed out, those situations often lead to a horse incurring injury.

Frankly watching the race, I was surprised nobody clipped in there and no horses went down.

Jockeys make mistakes all the time. But not like this. For a guy who won 200+ races and $10+ million in purses last year to make that kind of move yesterday, it's utterly indefensible. It was as bad as it gets.

Originally Posted by Balletto

Well, since I tend to be the one that garners a lot of ol' blackie's attacks (I almost crave them now... love ya, bitch!), and its throwing the rest of you off kelter (is that really a word?), i'll just add my two cents so he can focus on his favorite target. I think it was the best ride in the HISTORY of the sport, and I happen to know this since i've seen every race ever run and im practically a divine being.

Here kitty kitty kitty... come to mama. Im all wet and waiting for you my big man.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

But the thing is, if you take all the bad decisions jockeys have made in a race over, say, the last 10 years and you make a "Top X" list, yesterday's ride probably has to be included in that list no matter how small you make X..

Could not agree more. That is exactly what I've been saying.

To say in all of "history" is hyperbole....it actually embodies the very definition of the word.

I've never once defended the ride, and I've never once said it wouldn't have made a top X list in a given time period.

But "history?"

That is using hyperbole. That's all my entire point was. If that is an "attack," so be it.