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Joe Talamo is riding well at the Fairgrounds and is showing potential as a 17 year old

Originally Posted by T3B

where in the heck did that word come from???

eviscerate ( ) v. , -ated , -ating , -ates . v.tr. To remove the entrails of; disembowel. To take away a vital or essential part of: a compromise that.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by robfla

eviscerate ( ) v. , -ated , -ating , -ates . v.tr. To remove the entrails of; disembowel. To take away a vital or essential part of: a compromise that.

thank you

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Well, the rider of AP Arrow had more than a right to keep him from taking his hole. Of course AP Arrow didn't start running until he got to the outside but that's another story.

I haven't watched the race carefully. I'm still pissed Invasor got through at all as I wanted Zito to win a Grade 1.

Invasor could have easily lost that race if the rail had not opened. Seattle must havehad his heart in his throat. By far the best horse but that is not what the chalk players wanted to see... a number of people must have been stroking out.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

....and Testimony and Flemme De Passion. Somehow I don't think he brought his A game, B game, or C game that day.

he shipped up from south america to florida, and then on to dubai. and he did suffer a sesamoid injury at some point before leaving south america.
at any rate, much travel, and from what i understand, a trip from hell in dubai--and was still charging at the end.
if he brings his a game, discreet cat better look out!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

They are wrong Andy---Johnny V wasn't on A.P. Arrow, that was Kent D.

why am i not surprised...

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

That was Desermeaux who did that on A.P. Arrow....another one of his vintage crazed rides that he is only capable of.

I am not talking about AP Arrow, I am talking about the 4 horse Chatain.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

That wasn't Johnny V. It was Cornelio Velasquez.

Thanks. I will go back and edit my post. Thanks for the correction.

[Cajungator26]

I missed watching this race today... (sick kid all day), but I was just reading the trip notes and it sounds like Heanoldsalt had a rough trip too. How did he look to you guys?

[Seattleallstar]

Caj, hesanoldsalt and ap arrow put in grade 1 peformances. I didnt bet to win because even im not that much of a degenerate to put over 1k on a 1-5 shot to win. Messing around at Tampa Bay I made a few nice tri hits, and in the Donn I just put a 200 exacta with hesanold. and a 10 dollar tri, 2 dollar super. The only big win bet I made was on Naissance Royal for 600. So I had a good day at the track, meltdown was averted

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by 1 dollar pick 3

I am not talking about AP Arrow, I am talking about the 4 horse Chatain.

Well---Kent D. put A.P. Arrow in an all-out drive, and strong left handed whipping...just to keep Invasor sealed in....and when he had him, you'll see him all of a sudden stop riding for a moment......it was very aggressive race riding...and was the cause of Invasor's troubles

[KirisClown]

Here's the replay... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2WkqdxHWbU

It's also on the NTRA site...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Well---Kent D. put A.P. Arrow in an all-out drive, and strong left handed whipping...just to keep Invasor sealed in....and when he had him, you'll see him all of a sudden stop riding for a moment......it was very aggressive race riding...and was the cause of Invasor's troubles

Invasors problems were caused by Jara thinking about splitting 2 stopping 100-1 shots. I dont think that this race was as good as it looks because of the trouble. I mean he accelerated past 2 stopping horses and outfinished Penna's horse who wants no part of 1 1/8th, Hesanoldsalt who lost a ton of ground on the turn, and AP Arrow who also was steadied behind the stopping horses and was actually under the whip at the 3/8ths while behind Invasor. The pace set up well for him and they did not come home fast on a track that seemed to be a tick or 2 fast. Not saying that he was fully cranked or trying to denigrate the horse but this was not some superior performance. It was a very good horse overcoming a bit of trouble while beating overmatched foes.
Feel free to blast me.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Invasors problems were caused by Jara thinking about splitting 2 stopping 100-1 shots. I dont think that this race was as good as it looks because of the trouble. I mean he accelerated past 2 stopping horses and outfinished Penna's horse who wants no part of 1 1/8th, Hesanoldsalt who lost a ton of ground on the turn, and AP Arrow who also was steadied behind the stopping horses and was actually under the whip at the 3/8ths while behind Invasor. The pace set up well for him and they did not come home fast on a track that seemed to be a tick or 2 fast. Not saying that he was fully cranked or trying to denigrate the horse but this was not some superior performance. It was a very good horse overcoming a bit of trouble while beating overmatched foes.
Feel free to blast me.

it's hard to really get a feel for the race because of how everything unfolded. obviously invasor should have come down the lane easy as pie-had his jock not made a colossal blunder early. says a lot about the horse that he came on again after that trouble-and also speaks volumes about the rest of the field that he took off so easy-you look that much better when everyone else is backpedalling.

that race shouldn't have had any excitement at all to it. here's hoping nothing is sore on him tomorrow!

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The pace set up well for him and they did not come home fast on a track that seemed to be a tick or 2 fast. Not saying that he was fully cranked or trying to denigrate the horse but this was not some superior performance. It was a very good horse overcoming a bit of trouble while beating overmatched foes.
Feel free to blast me.

No, I agree with you to a large extent....his performance will be overrated.

While beating a very overmatched field on paper, He got a tremendous setup pace-wise, saved all the ground on a day when the rail was arguably the place to be, and though he had all that trouble on the far turn---it was not like he had to run all that fast through the final furlong to win.

Thirty minutes later, in a race run at the same distance, a 108/1 shot 3yo, who never had run a Beyer higher than 72 in his career, pressed the pace the entire way, and stayed on to win. The final furlong of that race was run in marginally faster time than the final 1/8th of the Invasor race.

As far as the ride by Kent D. on A.P. Arrow, I've seen him do that to many times, to many odds-on favorites trying to come inside of him....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

As far as the ride by Kent D. on A.P. Arrow, I've seen him do that to many times, to many odds-on favorites trying to come inside of him....

He caused his own horse to be put in a bad spot by going apeshit at the 3/8ths when Invasor passed him.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Invasors problems were caused by Jara thinking about splitting 2 stopping 100-1 shots. I dont think that this race was as good as it looks because of the trouble. I mean he accelerated past 2 stopping horses and outfinished Penna's horse who wants no part of 1 1/8th, Hesanoldsalt who lost a ton of ground on the turn, and AP Arrow who also was steadied behind the stopping horses and was actually under the whip at the 3/8ths while behind Invasor. The pace set up well for him and they did not come home fast on a track that seemed to be a tick or 2 fast. Not saying that he was fully cranked or trying to denigrate the horse but this was not some superior performance. It was a very good horse overcoming a bit of trouble while beating overmatched foes.
Feel free to blast me.

I'm sorry, are you the only one who actually objectively watches races here?

[The Bid]

Had Invasor been wide like he should have been, he would have won by 10 and I doubt Jara would have ever moved. That wasnt a good field, Invasor is a special horse.

He was simply too much horse for anything in there. He has a date with Destiny in Dubai.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

IMO, he was going apeshit that early to keep Invasor in.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

IMO, he was going apeshit that early to keep Invasor in.

Maybe but who knows what goes on in that guys mind