mccain's vp - Page 41

dalakhani · #**801** 09-09-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I never ever said they were the same plan... and I posted both of the two plans with the link. I said IMO the biggest difference was the Corporate taxes.

If I got a 6% raise this year.. and next year my corporate company will have less $$ because they are paying more taxes.. Will I only get a 3% raise next year?

If that is the case I'd much rather have the higher raise than the $502 I'll save with Obamas tax plan.

I really have no clue how it will effect that.

If Companies suddenly decided to pass along all of those corporate tax breaks to the middle class (as supply side/trickle down econ suggests) statistics say that would be a big departure from what has happened since 1980. Do you really think that is going to happen? You seem like an intelligent person. Why would you believe this?

Cannon Shell · #**802** 09-09-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

If Companies suddenly decided to pass along all of those corporate tax breaks to the middle class (as supply side/trickle down econ suggests) statistics say that would be a big departure from what has happened since 1980. Do you really think that is going to happen? You seem like an intelligent person. Why would you believe this?

I run a business. If i were given a tax break i would not give my customers lower prices but I may keep my prices the same which over a period of years is in effect passing along my good fortune. This hatred of business is misplaced.

dalakhani · #**803** 09-09-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I run a business. If i were given a tax break i would not give my customers lower prices but I may keep my prices the same which over a period of years is in effect passing along my good fortune. This hatred of business is misplaced.

There is no hatred of business. I am a capitalist. Its just that i realize the failed experiment of Reaganomics. Supply side economics, Reaganomics or Trickle down has done nothing but erode the middle class and create enormous swirling deficit. What more evidence do you need that it doesnt work?

"I MAY keep my prices the same" isnt that the same as saying that you MAY NOT? And isnt that the problem? When given the choice, human nature tends toward greed. Not for all, but certainly for a majority. This is indisputable.

Cannon Shell · #**804** 09-09-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

There is no hatred of business. I am a capitalist. Its just that i realize the failed experiment of Reaganomics. Supply side economics, Reaganomics or Trickle down has done nothing but erode the middle class and create enormous swirling deficit. What more evidence do you need that it doesnt work?

"I MAY keep my prices the same" isnt that the same as saying that you MAY NOT? And isnt that the problem? When given the choice, human nature tends toward greed. Not for all, but certainly for a majority. This is indisputable.

So basically greed is counteracted by heavy taxation? This is a global ecomomy now. The more you tax big business, the less incentive there is to keep jobs here. The middle class is pandered to and told how bad they have it yet the middle class lives far greater than it did 40 years ago.

ArlJim78 · #**805** 09-09-2008, 05:23 PM

nothing wrong with Reaganomics or greed, the only problem was that spending was supposed to be controlled, and that never happened.

dalakhani · #**806** 09-09-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So basically greed is counteracted by heavy taxation? This is a global ecomomy now. The more you tax big business, the less incentive there is to keep jobs here. The middle class is pandered to and told how bad they have it yet the middle class lives far greater than it did 40 years ago.

http://www.worldwatch.org/node/82

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/incom...inc/f07ar.html

Do you realize that from 1980 to 2006 median Wages, adjusted for inflation, had only risen 10k? Do you realize in the 26 years prior, wages had almost DOUBLED?

If the middle class is living far greater, it is purely on credit. HMMMMM...I wonder if we have a credit problem going on right now?

SCUDSBROTHER · #**807** 09-09-2008, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

There is no hatred of business. I am a capitalist. Its just that i realize the failed experiment of Reaganomics. Supply side economics, Reaganomics or Trickle down has done nothing but erode the middle class and create enormous swirling deficit. What more evidence do you need that it doesnt work?

"I MAY keep my prices the same" isnt that the same as saying that you MAY NOT? And isnt that the problem? When given the choice, human nature tends toward greed. Not for all, but certainly for a majority. This is indisputable.

This is why these programs had to be started in the 1st place(human nature tends toward greed, and without this evil gov't intrusion, you would just have the rich and the poor.) That is exactly what you would see(very rich n' very poor.)

Mortimer · #**808** 09-09-2008, 06:53 PM

A government employee observing you in each and every home....or no government at all.

Vote for one...I'm sick of all the arguing....more so the preposterous posts.

And don't tell me not to read it.

SCUDSBROTHER · #**809** 09-09-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer

I'm sick of all the arguing....more so the preposterous posts.

That's a lie.

Rileyoriley · #**810** 09-09-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer

A government employee observing you in each and every home....or no government at all.

Vote for one...I'm sick of all the arguing....more so the preposterous posts.

And don't tell me not to read it.

What does this government employee look like? I'd need a good description of him before I make a decision.

Mortimer · #**811** 09-09-2008, 06:59 PM

And so....so what?

Mortimer · #**812** 09-09-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

What does this government employee look like? I'd need a good description of him before I make a decision.

God.

It wouldn't be the same one for all.......each household would have their own.

Here's what yours would look like:

=;> %=========================D

Rileyoriley · #**813** 09-09-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer

God.

It wouldn't be the same one for all.......each household would have their own.

Here's what yours would look like:

=;> %=========================D

Interesting. Do you have a face to go with that?

Mortimer · #**814** 09-09-2008, 07:07 PM

I was thinking yours.

I guess that will do me for tonight,posters.

Bye-bye.

SCUDSBROTHER · #**815** 09-09-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer

And so....so what?

Just categorizing it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1863972...82618/sizes/o/

A Turk caused me to make that.

geeker2 · #**816** 09-09-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

Interesting. Do you have a face to go with that?

Attachment 967

Rileyoriley · #**817** 09-09-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2

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NO GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SCUDSBROTHER · #**818** 09-09-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2

Attachment 967

Somebody said he liked that fisting.

geeker2 · #**819** 09-09-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Somebody said he liked that fisting.

LOL

Danzig · #**820** 09-09-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

In the last week or so I believe 2 people have been called elitist on this site and both have expressed they were voting for Obama.

really? musta missed it.
altho i'm not surprised, libs call cons every name in the book, and cons return the favor.
cracks me up that the conservative talk radio, especially rush, is so HORRIFIED that people are attacking palin. i think rush refers to liberal women as femi-Nazis. ridiculous. then they're SO offended when it's their turn.