Street Sense Not For Me.... - Page 5

estreetposse · #81 05-01-2007, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Nothing wrong with trying to beat him... if anything, I'd try to beat him by the fact that he's only had two starts as a 3 year old. But just out of curiosity... IF he had won by a neck in the Blue Grass, would you still be trying to beat him?

Yes, I would, by a neck, nose, length etc....2 preps as a 3, same as AGS but I like the extra week, 2 wins by storming the rail which I don't think anyone will let it happen again and I don't feel he can be pushed 5+ wide and win with other talented colts in this field. He is one of the best in the field, and I will play him underneath, it just seems like I am being forced to love him and key him when I don't and probably won't.

Danzig · #82 05-01-2007, 08:47 AM

going by what street sense has done, both last year and this....didn't he run on poly just before the bc juvie? didn't win the poly race, but of course trounced the field at churchill......those who ignore history and all that.

as for him being outrun a few weeks ago--i don't think a headbob either way means a horse out ran, or was out run by, another horse. also, did street sense give weight to dominican? or was it level weights for all?

Danzig · #83 05-01-2007, 08:50 AM

and speaking of street sense, this from drf:

Street Sense sharp once again
By MIKE WELSCH
LOUISVILLE, Ky. - Street Sense may have stamped himself the favorite for the 2007 Kentucky Derby by turning in another eye-catching work on Tuesday morning.

With regular rider Calvin Borel aboard, Street Sense worked five furlongs in 1:00.68 seconds, according to Daily Racing Form, coming home his final quarter-mile in 22.82 seconds. He galloped out six furlongs in 1:13.04 over a fast track.

Cobalt Blue was scheduled to "open gallop" over the track on Tuesday. according to his trainer Doug O’Neill, but was full of run and was timed going seven furlongs from the three-eighths pole to the half-mile pole in 1:26.17 by Daily Racing Form. O’Neill said afterwards that he would confer with the horse’s owner, Merv Griffin, later today before making a final decision on whether to enter Cobalt Blue in the Derby.

Entries for the 2007 Kentucky Derby will be taken on Wednesday.

-------and judging by cobalts gallop, i bet he enters.

slotdirt · #84 05-01-2007, 08:50 AM

I've decided this is a very clever ploy by Moodwalker to get the odds on Street Sense up on Saturday.

estreetposse · #85 05-01-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I am almost reluctant to respond as I don't want you to go tattle to the other place and say how you are being forced to do something. No one is forcing anything, it was a discussion. That's what happens here, we discuss things. At no point yesterday did it get out of hand, so your post is way off, here and there. Honestly, I and I'm sure everyone else forcing...errr discussing this could care less if you like SS. Bet who you like. To bet someone else other than who you like because someone on a message board said so would be ludicrous. You stated why you didn't like SS, those that do like him responded. If you didn't want a response maybe you shouldn't have posted it, as this is a message board and the point is to discuss things.

You didn't have to respond as I was replying to Cajun...but thanks for your input. You are right, nobody is forcing me to play SS...as I have said, I will play him, underneath on my own. For a period of time discussion it was not, it was like many have done before...stand the boy up and tie him to the whipping post and start lashing. I am not in the majority here, as I remember, I believe only 3 of us argued against SS. Should I change my opinion of SS, Nafzger, or the Bluegrass? Maybe. Will I? When the posts come out possibly I will. We 3 who stated our claims against haven't swayed any opinions, nor have any of those for swayed mine. As for the other site, they all know what goes on here and you all know what goes on there, I'm not getting into a pissing match when the common goal is the same...HORSERACING!!! I've said all I can say on this, thank you for everyones input.

Buffymommy · #86 05-01-2007, 09:20 AM

SS had another very nice workout at CD. This horse loves Churchill. I wouldn't be tossing him. I really like him. As of right now, he is my front runner to win the thing.

Street Sense
Your Comment:

Date: May 1, 2007
Track: CHURCHILL DOWNS
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.01:00 Breezing
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 3/15

Scurlogue Champ · #87 05-01-2007, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I've decided this is a very clever ploy by Moodwalker to get the odds on Street Sense up on Saturday.

That is slander and I suggest you maybe just say that "you don't choose to listen to moodwalker" in the future.

Cajungator26 · #88 05-01-2007, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Where exactly was the lashing? That's bulls hit. No one is trying to sway any opinions, again this is a message board, if everyone agreed on everything it'd be pretty boring. And as for the pissing match, who is trying to get into one? Point is, for someone not trying to get into a pissing match, that post over there certainly seemed suspect. What exactly was the point of that? Pity?

Uh oh. Don't make me go over there and read.

I wasn't trying to lash out at anyone... just didn't agree on what he was saying about Street Sense. Heavens... opinions are like assholes... everyone has one.

estreetposse · #89 05-01-2007, 10:34 AM

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Got tore up pretty bad "next door", they ganged up on me, now I got a broken arm, sprained fingers from typing trying to defend myself...might go back for more manana.

What do ya think Moodwalker, did they convince you to play Street Sense yet?

My exact post...no need to get Blocky all excited, Cajun.

I do have a broken arm which I didn't say you did, my fingers do hurt from typing with one hand defending my opinions which I, you and everyone is entitled. I am of the opinion that I was in the minority and felt that I was ganged up on. Minority is a fact...ganged up on is an opinion...remember this is a message board, I'm allowed to have one as are you.

Now, I have supported this board over there if you bothered to read any more of my posts or whoever is the real tattler here(freakin' grade school)read any. I have especially supported the proud owners of SumWon and DeeTee stables who have been mocked repeatedly. I also have stuck up for that site and a few of its members a few weeks back,
because I felt they brought valid points and were found out & trashed.

BOTTOM LINE

There is great info at both sites about horseracing, am I right? There is great "discussions" at both as well. Why can't we just leave it at that?

Cajungator26 · #90 05-01-2007, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by estreetposse

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Got tore up pretty bad "next door", they ganged up on me, now I got a broken arm, sprained fingers from typing trying to defend myself...might go back for more manana.

What do ya think Moodwalker, did they convince you to play Street Sense yet?

My exact post...no need to get Blocky all excited, Cajun.

I do have a broken arm which I didn't say you did, my fingers do hurt from typing with one hand defending my opinions which I, you and everyone is entitled. I am of the opinion that I was in the minority and felt that I was ganged up on. Minority is a fact...ganged up on is an opinion...remember this is a message board, I'm allowed to have one as are you.

Now, I have supported this board over there if you bothered to read any more of my posts or whoever is the real tattler here(freakin' grade school)read any. I have especially supported the proud owners of SumWon and DeeTee stables who have been mocked repeatedly.
There is great info at both sites about horseracing, am I right? There is great "discussions" at both as well. Why can't we just leave it at that?

That was my original viewpoint as well. When a few of the members over there started some unnecessary stuff, I just chose not to post anymore. It didn't make sense. BTW... I didn't care for Street Sense either. That is until I saw him in Tampa Bay. The colt just might be that good, but maybe not. I'm not forcing you to use him on your tickets... it's your perogative. Well hell... I wish more people would leave him off. His odds would go up!

estreetposse · #91 05-01-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

That was my original viewpoint as well. When a few of the members over there started some unnecessary stuff, I just chose not to post anymore. It didn't make sense. BTW... I didn't care for Street Sense either. That is until I saw him in Tampa Bay. The colt just might be that good, but maybe not. I'm not forcing you to use him on your tickets... it's your perogative. Well hell... I wish more people would leave him off. His odds would go up!

Thanks, those comments that were made were in bad taste and definitely uncalled for, it's unfortunate that they made them to you.

I think SS is good, very good compared to many in the field, if he wins I'll probably lose...that's gambling. Good luck to all.

estreetposse · #92 05-01-2007, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I think you are completely missing my point. You're right, horse racing is what is important. I am not making this a competition about sites or anything. I felt like you were trying to stir it up by posting that. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. As for ganging up, stop it. No one ganged up, it was a civil conversation.

That's your opinion...This was mine...Now let us give the thread back to Street Sense and all have a nice day. Agreed?

fpsoxfan · #93 05-01-2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by estreetposse

That's your opinion...This was mine...Now let us give the thread back to Street Sense and all have a nice day. Agreed?

Why are you such a freaking Moron?? LOL......Wow...You had quite an outing there buddy. As far as the other Forum goes...it's kind of quiet over there. At least here there's always something to do. As far as Street Sense goes...The race on Polytrack is a complete throw out. Keeneland went from being a fun track to cap to garbage in one year. Maybe I just am biased because of Poly. I think anyone would be crazy not to have on at least one of their tickets a Street Sense - Circular Quay boxed exacta.

Cajungator26 · #94 05-01-2007, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Why are you such a freaking Moron?? LOL......Wow...You had quite an outing there buddy. As far as the other Forum goes...it's kind of quiet over there. At least here there's always something to do. As far as Street Sense goes...The race on Polytrack is a complete throw out. Keeneland went from being a fun track to cap to garbage in one year. Maybe I just am biased because of Poly. I think anyone would be crazy not to have on at least one of their tickets a Street Sense - Circular Quay boxed exacta.

I'm crazy. I'm going to let CQ beat me... 8 weeks off? No thanks.

fpsoxfan · #95 05-01-2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I'm crazy. I'm going to let CQ beat me... 8 weeks off? No thanks.

Blah,Blah,Blah....you know you may be right, but I'm so sick and tired of hearing about this layoff crap. Let's just say a few things about this.

1. Would a world class trainer like you know......ugh....Todd Pletcher send a
horse to the derby that wasn't ready???

2. Would Johnny V. choose CQ as his mount if the horse wasn't ready??

3. Have never ever ever bet a horse off an eight week layoff??

Now I don't mean to come down on you Cajun because you are one of many with this opinion. Go look at all his replays like I have done many many times.
This horse is potentially a monster. I may be and judging by my Derby luck in the past...will be wrong. But I will sure as hell take 8-1...10-1 or higher on him than I would..say 7/2 on everyones new hero Curlin.

#96 05-01-2007, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Blah,Blah,Blah....you know you may be right, but I'm so sick and tired of hearing about this layoff crap. Let's just say a few things about this.

1. Would a world class trainer like you know......ugh....Todd Pletcher send a
horse to the derby that wasn't ready???

2. Would Johnny V. choose CQ as his mount if the horse wasn't ready??

3. Have never ever ever bet a horse off an eight week layoff??

Now I don't mean to come down on you Cajun because you are one of many with this opinion. Go look at all his replays like I have done many many times.
This horse is potentially a monster. I may be and judging by my Derby luck in the past...will be wrong. But I will sure as hell take 8-1...10-1 or higher on him than I would..say 7/2 on everyones new hero Curlin.

Well i'm convinced.

Cajungator26 · #97 05-01-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Blah,Blah,Blah....you know you may be right, but I'm so sick and tired of hearing about this layoff crap. Let's just say a few things about this.

1. Would a world class trainer like you know......ugh....Todd Pletcher send a
horse to the derby that wasn't ready???

2. Would Johnny V. choose CQ as his mount if the horse wasn't ready??

3. Have never ever ever bet a horse off an eight week layoff??

Now I don't mean to come down on you Cajun because you are one of many with this opinion. Go look at all his replays like I have done many many times.
This horse is potentially a monster. I may be and judging by my Derby luck in the past...will be wrong. But I will sure as hell take 8-1...10-1 or higher on him than I would..say 7/2 on everyones new hero Curlin.

I'd bet on a horse off an 8 week layoff, sure. Not in the Kentucky Derby, though. Big difference between THIS race and a normal come back allowance race. I like CQ... just not this time around. It's nothing against him or his talent (as I think he's extremely talented.) As for Curlin, I don't like his chances in the Derby either.

fpsoxfan · #98 05-01-2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I'd bet on a horse off an 8 week layoff, sure. Not in the Kentucky Derby, though. Big difference between THIS race and a normal come back allowance race. I like CQ... just not this time around. It's nothing against him or his talent (as I think he's extremely talented.) As for Curlin, I don't like his chances in the Derby either.

I know what you are saying. I do know that the Derby is not the same as any other race. I've been wrong so many times before and will probably will be wrong again...but I realllllllllly like this horse. In the past I've wavered between 4 or 5 horses in the weeks leading up to the Derby, but despite everything I've read...I'm still on him. Obviously....I won't focus just on him
I'll have tickets galore. So anyway...let the fun begin.

Cajungator26 · #99 05-01-2007, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

I know what you are saying. I do know that the Derby is not the same as any other race. I've been wrong so many times before and will probably will be wrong again...but I realllllllllly like this horse. In the past I've wavered between 4 or 5 horses in the weeks leading up to the Derby, but despite everything I've read...I'm still on him. Obviously....I won't focus just on him
I'll have tickets galore. So anyway...let the fun begin.

Stick with your gut... this might be a brainless comment (

), but the Derby is such a crapshoot anyway... sometimes it defies logic. I'm not dissing anyone for their picks. God knows mine have been subpar. I had Barbaro to win last year, but didn't use Bluegrass Cat in any of my wagers. The year before, I had Closing Argument and Afleet Alex, but no Giacomo. What an idiot I am.

fpsoxfan · #**100** 05-01-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Stick with your gut... this might be a brainless comment (

), but the Derby is such a crapshoot anyway... sometimes it defies logic. I'm not dissing anyone for their picks. God knows mine have been subpar. I had Barbaro to win last year, but didn't use Bluegrass Cat in any of my wagers. The year before, I had Closing Argument and Afleet Alex, but no Giacomo. What an idiot I am.

I was thinking pletcher horses and a few others/pletcher horses/all triple.