Vick - Page 5

King Glorious · #81 08-23-2007, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

hmmm

maybe you should be vicks lawyer. that would be a hell of a defense. but judge, it's not a felony everywhere. i don't think it's fair that my client was charged since he committed these crimes in the wrong state.

wtf does that have to do with anything? he's a criminal, having committed these crimes for about six years. ever since he was able to afford his very own illegal dog fighting operation. how proud everyone must be of him. i mean, of all the avenues available to him--he chose this one. what a great human being.

I'm going to challenge u. Find one post where I have said he's innocent, just ONE........and I'll leave this forum forever. I'm sure u can read Danzig. I said it was a QUESTION. I didn't know the answer and I was asking if anyone did. How about u provide me a list of questions that are suitable to u that I can ask. That would help me in my quest to please u.

Danzig · #82 08-23-2007, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'm going to challenge u. Find one post where I have said he's innocent, just ONE........and I'll leave this forum forever. I'm sure u can read Danzig. I said it was a QUESTION. I didn't know the answer and I was asking if anyone did. How about u provide me a list of questions that are suitable to u that I can ask. That would help me in my quest to please u.

oh don't be ridiculous. has nothing to do with whether you thought he was guilty, my opinion is that most hypothetical questions are silly and meaningless. but ask away, i'm certainly not any judge and jury. post what you want, i'll do the same.

#83 08-23-2007, 02:59 PM

The Atlanta Chapter of the NAACP says Vick should be allowed to play again after his rehabilitation. Stephon Marbury sees nothing wrong with dog fighting. Says its a sport just like hunting. Here it comes.

Meanwhile... 50 dogs owned by Vick will most likely be euthanized. They are the culled killers that are too dangerous to be kept.

Cajungator26 · #84 08-23-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

The Atlanta Chapter of the NAACP says Vick should be allowed to play again after his rehabilitation. Stephon Marbury sees nothing wrong with dog fighting. Says its a sport just like hunting. Here it comes.

Meanwhile... 50 dogs owned by Vick will most likely be euthanized. They are the culled killers that are too dangerous to be kept.

It's a sad thing, but I understand why...

skippy3481 · #85 08-23-2007, 03:16 PM

NAACP, ah this orginization is so messed up, does anyone actually listen anymore? They were all over the duke case and already had them convicted before all the evidence came out. Now we have vick who pleaded guilty and heres somebody saying he really didn't do anything wrong per se, he was just trying to limit his jail time because he was being railroaded by his friends. Vick pleaded guilty(I.E HE DID IT) and this guy wants us to be patient... He goes on to say that its sad that he pleaded guilty because now the true facts will probably never come to light.... Honestly can we just stop the blind trust here with the naacp.Just because he is a high profile black athlete does not mean they should feel obligated to defend him.

AeWingnut · #86 08-23-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481

NAACP, ah this orginization is so messed up, does anyone actually listen anymore? They were all over the duke case and already had them convicted before all the evidence came out. Now we have vick who pleaded guilty and heres somebody saying he really didn't do anything wrong per se, he was just trying to limit his jail time because he was being railroaded by his friends. Vick pleaded guilty(I.E HE DID IT) and this guy wants us to be patient... He goes on to say that its sad that he pleaded guilty because now the true facts will probably never come to light.... Honestly can we just stop the blind trust here with the naacp.Just because he is a high profile black athlete does not mean they should feel obligated to defend him.

I think he plans to help OJ find the real killers after he gets out of jail.

#87 08-23-2007, 06:50 PM

Just listened to a sports radio talk show driving home from work. Plenty of callers that were quite obviously African American were saying Vick is being punished because white America loves dogs more than people...

Its going racial. I had a feeling.

Cajungator26 · #88 08-23-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Just listened to a sports radio talk show driving home from work. Plenty of callers that were quite obviously African American were saying Vick is being punished because white America loves dogs more than people...

Its going racial. I had a feeling.

Of course... it always seems to. I wish people could understand that sometimes it's NOT about race. In fact, most of the time it's not about race. It makes me sick...

Danzig · #89 08-23-2007, 08:01 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...ge=hill/070821

an excellent article, please read it.

i first heard about it while listening to the jim rome show, and this is the first chance i have had to read it.

ninetoone · #90 08-23-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Just listened to a sports radio talk show driving home from work. Plenty of callers that were quite obviously African American were saying Vick is being punished because white America loves dogs more than people...

Its going racial. I had a feeling.

No way....this card is pulled so often that noone even takes it seriously anymore.

#91 08-23-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...ge=hill/070821

an excellent article, please read it.

i first heard about it while listening to the jim rome show, and this is the first chance i have had to read it.

That is a heck of a good article.

Misplaced allegiance.
Same thing I saw with Mike Tyson.
Stick by the bad boy.
That image is to be admired and will keep you proud.

I actually heard Stephen A. Smith say that any self-respecting black man should root for Tyson to beat Holyfield (first Fight) for obvious reasons (obvious to him anyway). I have not listened to ESPN lately; Steven A. is not one to hold back on his views. Has anybody listened to what he has said? I have noticed that as he gets older, he has moderated a lot of his thoughts.

Cannon Shell · #92 08-24-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

Close to the most ridiculous item of the day.

Mike Vick QB rankings
QB rating- 24th
Completions- 24th
Completion %-38th (remember there are only 32 teams in the league)
Yards- 22nd
avg Yards - 26th
Yards per game-34th(remember there are only 32 teams in the league)
TD's -10th
Interceptions- 13th
1st downs- 22nd
Sacks taken -6th (this is a negative stat where being 1st means you took the most sacks in the league)

But he is a great rusher you say?
Rushing td's -2
Fumbles -4
The only backs that fumbled more than Vick were Frank Gore, Willie Parker, and Rudi Johnson all who carried over 200 more times than Vick.

Yeah he is a great QB.

2MinsToPost · #93 08-24-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481

NAACP, ah this orginization is so messed up, does anyone actually listen anymore? They were all over the duke case and already had them convicted before all the evidence came out. Now we have vick who pleaded guilty and heres somebody saying he really didn't do anything wrong per se, he was just trying to limit his jail time because he was being railroaded by his friends. Vick pleaded guilty(I.E HE DID IT) and this guy wants us to be patient... He goes on to say that its sad that he pleaded guilty because now the true facts will probably never come to light.... Honestly can we just stop the blind trust here with the naacp.Just because he is a high profile black athlete does not mean they should feel obligated to defend him.

This post is dead solid perfect

SentToStud · #94 08-24-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Mike Vick QB rankings
QB rating- 24th
Completions- 24th
Completion %-38th (remember there are only 32 teams in the league)
Yards- 22nd
avg Yards - 26th
Yards per game-34th(remember there are only 32 teams in the league)
TD's -10th
Interceptions- 13th
1st downs- 22nd
Sacks taken -6th (this is a negative stat where being 1st means you took the most sacks in the league)

But he is a great rusher you say?
Rushing td's -2
Fumbles -4
The only backs that fumbled more than Vick were Frank Gore, Willie Parker, and Rudi Johnson all who carried over 200 more times than Vick.

Yeah he is a great QB.

Hey Sport,
No one said he was "great."

How 'bout you stick these staats in your pipe to smoke:
# Years Pro: 6
# Years Pro Bowl: 3

Yeah, he's no good. You'd know better than the people who vote for the Pro Bowl. And of course, just because he ran for 1000 yds doesn't mean anything.

And his 4 fumbles? BFD. Len Dawson fumbled 8 times in 1 game. He stunk too, huh?

I think he's good; you don't. I like Hialeah; you think it's a sh1thole. Oh well. Go try to win a race, ok?

Cannon Shell · #95 08-24-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

Hey Sport,
No one said he was "great."

How 'bout you stick these staats in your pipe to smoke:
# Years Pro: 6
# Years Pro Bowl: 3

Yeah, he's no good. You'd know better than the people who vote for the Pro Bowl. And of course, just because he ran for 1000 yds doesn't mean anything.

And his 4 fumbles? BFD. Len Dawson fumbled 8 times in 1 game. He stunk too, huh?

I think he's good; you don't. I like Hialeah; you think it's a sh1thole. Oh well. Go try to win a race, ok?

Vick's selection to the Pro Bowl for the 2005 season was a controversial one, given that in addition to his 15 touchdown passes, he threw 13 interceptions, and that his 2,412 passing yards is extremely below average. Following Vick's Pro Bowl selection, sports columnist Tim Cowlishaw of the Dallas Morning News called Vick "the most overrated player in the league." Likewise, in an NFL season preview article in the August, 2006 issue of Maxim, the magazine's readers crowned Vick as "Most Overrated." A Sports Illustrated poll taken in 2005 also showed that the Vick is considered to the most overrated player in the NFL.

Vick was a novelty act. Basically an elusive running back who happened to have a rifle arm. He made bad decisions and used his legs to get him out of trouble. His tremendous athletic ability may have fooled some into thinking he was a good QB. But the stats and W/L records shows otherwise.

hi_im_god · #96 08-24-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Vick's selection to the Pro Bowl for the 2005 season was a controversial one, given that in addition to his 15 touchdown passes, he threw 13 interceptions, and that his 2,412 passing yards is extremely below average. Following Vick's Pro Bowl selection, sports columnist Tim Cowlishaw of the Dallas Morning News called Vick "the most overrated player in the league." Likewise, in an NFL season preview article in the August, 2006 issue of Maxim, the magazine's readers crowned Vick as "Most Overrated." A Sports Illustrated poll taken in 2005 also showed that the Vick is considered to the most overrated player in the NFL.

Vick was a novelty act. Basically an elusive running back who happened to have a rifle arm. He made bad decisions and used his legs to get him out of trouble. His tremendous athletic ability may have fooled some into thinking he was a good QB. But the stats and W/L records shows otherwise.

had bad news stables never happened this was going to be a prove it year for vick.

it's laughable that people talk about him as a top tier qb. he made bad decisions and had no touch. was the line that bad in atlanta or did they just have no idea where their qb was? qb's like vick create chaos on both sides of the lines.

he "might" have been coachable enough to be a mcnabb level qb but i doubt we'll ever know.

building a team around his style is near impossible. that's a solo act.

great athlete. fun to watch. but a gm and coaches nightmare.

Danzig · #97 08-24-2007, 11:11 PM

poor atlanta...virtually sold their soul to get vick (and have been given the go ahead to try to get forty-odd million back if they can) and then hire a coach to build an offense around the QB...that they no longer have.

hell of a time for that team. all this after all the trade talk early on. you can believe they really wish right now they had dealt. too late now tho.

SCUDSBROTHER · #98 08-25-2007, 05:17 AM

Do you know exactly what scum this bunch is? Slamming a dog into the ground? There is not one of them that should ever be let out of their cage..ever....F punishment...It's about simply protecting society.You can not rehab filth like this.All you can do is keep them caged....And we aren't gunna do that.You are supposed to be disgusted (naturally.)It isn't supposed to have to be taught.See,they are sick.You can't change scum like this.

King Glorious · #99 08-25-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481

NAACP, ah this orginization is so messed up, does anyone actually listen anymore? They were all over the duke case and already had them convicted before all the evidence came out. Now we have vick who pleaded guilty and heres somebody saying he really didn't do anything wrong per se, he was just trying to limit his jail time because he was being railroaded by his friends. Vick pleaded guilty(I.E HE DID IT) and this guy wants us to be patient... He goes on to say that its sad that he pleaded guilty because now the true facts will probably never come to light.... Honestly can we just stop the blind trust here with the naacp.Just because he is a high profile black athlete does not mean they should feel obligated to defend him.

I am African American and I agree with this post 100%. In a lot of instances, I think the NAACP is a joke. This doesn't change my thoughts.

somerfrost · #**100** 08-25-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I am African American and I agree with this post 100%. In a lot of instances, I think the NAACP is a joke. This doesn't change my thoughts.

The hero worship can only take folks so far, the NAACP should remember that Vick's main accusors are now his friends...all black folks as well! I understand the hesitation of the black community to fall into blind acceptance of a justice system that has failed them so often, but this is NOT the case to take a stand behind...Vick has now admitted his guilt...the fat lady has sung, Elvis has left the building, Jim Morrison has pulled has pants back up...it's over!