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Old 03-29-2008, 07:16 PM
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What are you trying to say? Don't you think this is a little pre-mature with this souped up theory?
no, the fractions or final times aren't going to change.
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:17 PM
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I only saw the race live, but I thought Smooth Air came from well off the pace.
Yeah, Big Brown had the lead wire to wire...
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What are you trying to say? Don't you think this is a little pre-mature with this souped up theory?
If he believes the times posted are accurate....than no, it's not pre-mature.
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:18 PM
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I only saw the race live, but I thought Smooth Air came from well off the pace.
Smooth Air started his move just after going into the turn. IMO he'll be able to sustain a good long move in and out around traffic, if need be, on Derby Day.

Live as in at Gulfstream? If so - my hero! Did you check out BB feet? I want to know if he is currently wearing glue-on shoes or not. And I want to know if he pulled a nail or something came half-loose when he drifted out in the stretch (or not). And I want to know what his feet look like tomorrow morning (Steve? Ask on ATR Monday? Pleeze? )
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:18 PM
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I thought for sure he'd fold in the stretch. I had a 2-12-all triple
and a 2-12-all-all dime super.
Had the "2" to win, also liked Zito's runner.....12 wasn't on any of my tickets.
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:19 PM
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Smooth Air started his move just after going into the turn. IMO he'll be able to sustain a good long move in and out around traffic, if need be, on Derby Day.

Live as in at Gulfstream? If so - my hero! Did you check out BB feet? I want to know if he is currently wearing glue-on shoes or not. And I want to know if he pulled a nail or something came half-loose when he drifted out in the stretch (or not). And I want to know what his feet look like tomorrow morning (Steve? Ask on ATR Monday? Pleeze? )
they talked about the glue ons...not sure tho if he wore them in the race. and he did seem to get rubber legged at the end, but who wouldn't after running that time?
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:20 PM
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Well it's definitely Miller Time in upstate.
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I guess that's the way I took it. I get the feeling that there are people that are trying to discredit this horse right off the bat. I saw the same thing everyone else did and that was impressive. I haven't been able to say that yet this year.
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:21 PM
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What are you trying to say? Don't you think this is a little pre-mature with this souped up theory?
No, it is obvious. I'm still saying Big Brown ran about a 105 or so Beyer, which is way better than any other Derby prep this year.

The alternatives are the Bonnie Miss was won by open lengths in a runaway by a horse earning a 70 Beyer, or Big Brown AND Electrify just ran about 130 Beyers. Something happened to the track.
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Well it's definitely Miller Time in upstate.
Well, we're getting there.
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:23 PM
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No, it is obvious. I'm still saying Big Brown ran about a 105 or so Beyer, which is way better than any other Derby prep this year.

The alternatives are the Bonnie Miss was won by open lengths in a runaway by a horse earning a 70 Beyer, or Big Brown AND Electrify just ran about 130 Beyers. Something happened to the track.
Gotcha..my apologies. I totally misunderstood your post.
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:24 PM
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I'm not going to pay attention to "souped up" until somebody who was at the track today can describe what was done between races.
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:25 PM
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Well, we're getting there.
It's ALWAYS Miller Time upstate!
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:26 PM
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giving credit where credit is due.....

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If this was a normal horse, I would say that he had no chance based on the data. However, there is nothing in this field that I think is good enough in this particular spot to beat this horse despite the bad post...he is much faster out of the gate than the majority of these, and should be able to establish a descent position going into the first turn. This horse also does not need the lead as he showed in his last. He earned a 104 BSF last out (we know what the rest of the field's figures look like) and will only get better. He is bred to run all day long. This is one of those races that you sit back, enjoy, and hope the favorite wins so that you can bet against him in the Derby.
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I'm not going to pay attention to "souped up" until somebody who was at the track today can describe what was done between races.
If it wasn't souped up - and the times posted in all three races are accurate - the runaway winner of the Bonnie Miss is a mid-level claimer, and those that she beat are all future 5K claimers.
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:27 PM
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I'm not going to pay attention to "souped up" until somebody who was at the track today can describe what was done between races.
You don't have to have seen it, it is painfully obvious. Unless, of course, the Gulfstream timer malfunctioned. That never happens, does it?
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:28 PM
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Someone should do an investigation as to who stole her login and wrote that post for her.
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i think it's very plausible to suggest that the track was worked in order to speed up throughout the day...they mistimed it a bit, it should have gotten faster a bit sooner. than the bonnie miss/fla derby would be the two with huge times.

we've seen it happen before, and we'll see it happen again. no doubt those at gulfstream did NOT want another 'slow' prep ala the fountain of youth.
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Someone should do an investigation as to who stole her login and wrote that post for her.
you know what they say about broken clocks....
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:31 PM
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