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Old 09-10-2008, 04:00 PM
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yes no shot....
Shoulda followed my instinct and singled that one.
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:45 PM
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Shoulda followed my instinct and singled that one.
It's tough to do that with so much static against the thought. You had it right Phil which is why I couldn't believe the "obvious toss" crescendo that built through the night. Obviously we are responsible for our own wagers but a loud forceful negative opinion with reason or not does influence people.
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:53 PM
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That was quite possibly the worst 8th race in NYRA history. Oof.
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:55 PM
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It's tough to do that with so much static against the thought. You had it right Phil which is why I couldn't believe the "obvious toss" crescendo that built through the night. Obviously we are responsible for our own wagers but a loud forceful negative opinion with reason or not does influence people.
Who the hell said he was an 'obvious toss' other than you? You put it in quotes as if someone said it.
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:56 PM
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That was quite possibly the worst 8th race in NYRA history. Oof.
Brutal. Wonder why the switched the nominal "feature" to the 7th?

Double carry...
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:05 PM
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The 2B and the 12 scratching out just made this race a whole lot easier for DD (and a lot harder for anything running off the pace).

If you have time, you really should look at the HEADON stretch run of Tee With the Tiger's last race.
i did hes still running...lmfao
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:07 PM
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:55 PM
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5 of 6 paid $2,339. At least I got my mythical money back.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:56 PM
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:01 PM
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Who the hell said he was an 'obvious toss' other than you? You put it in quotes as if someone said it.

Exactly. The point at least I was making was that I thought he would be overbet and it was a tricky race. As it turned out, the 1 and 11 crushed the field, and I was wrong, but even though I would never have bet Dr. Decter I would never have left him out of a real Pick-6 play.

In fact, if I made a $2K play he would have been one of the two winners on my ticket! I think my only decent opinion was that it was probably going to carry again....though I have no idea how the last winner paid $18.
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:28 PM
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I think it's far from 'nonsense' to call Dr. Decter a bet against. He obviously can win, but is an almost certain underlay.
I remember him well from betting him in his Spa debut at 8-1, a questionable ride and inexperience were the only things that kept him from winning that race, saying that I can understand people not being on him at 8/5. Still I would never call him a bet against.
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:29 PM
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I remember him well from betting him in his Spa debut at 8-1, a questionable ride and inexperience were the only things that kept him from winning that race, saying that I can understand people not being on him at 8/5. Still I would never call him a bet against.

What was questionable about the ride? He broke slowly and moved up into perfect position. What exactly should the rider have done differently?
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:36 PM
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I'm pretty sure he wasn't 8-1 in his debut either.
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:39 PM
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I'm pretty sure he wasn't 8-1 in his debut either.

He was.
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It's official....after today I really don't like Channing Hill.
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:44 PM
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What was questionable about the ride? He broke slowly and moved up into perfect position. What exactly should the rider have done differently?
I saw it a little differently, I thought Coa moved a little early on the horse. Perhaps if the horse was much the best it would have been not mattered. But he probably is just an "ok" type.
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:47 PM
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Exactly. The point at least I was making was that I thought he would be overbet and it was a tricky race. As it turned out, the 1 and 11 crushed the field, and I was wrong, but even though I would never have bet Dr. Decter I would never have left him out of a real Pick-6 play.

In fact, if I made a $2K play he would have been one of the two winners on my ticket! I think my only decent opinion was that it was probably going to carry again....though I have no idea how the last winner paid $18.
I almost fell out of my chair when I saw that.

Realizing it was probably going to double carry and a real play wasn't worth it was about my only good opinion as well (although I was fairly pleased with myself for basically only going 2 deep in the first leg, which looked tricky)
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:52 PM
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I saw it a little differently, I thought Coa moved a little early on the horse. Perhaps if the horse was much the best it would have been not mattered. But he probably is just an "ok" type.

I don't know if he necessarily " moved early " in as much as he sort of had no choice after being squeezed out after the start. The only real chance he probably had was to get into the race. His trip obviously compromised him but IMO it's an unfair oversimplification to claim it was jockey error. He was more a victim of circumstance.
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:54 PM
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He was.
Seems like good value. Must've been all of you meanies yelling at me that he was an 'obvious toss' that made me retroactively not bet him.
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