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steve · #81 03-05-2009, 08:14 PM

the champion of the right set all this in motion when he gave weapons to bin laden to save afgahnistan(?) from the russians

#82 03-05-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by steve

the champion of the right set all this in motion when he gave weapons to bin laden to save afgahnistan(?) from the russians

A Reagan blunder that is not talked about much.
Seemed reasonable at the time.

dellinger63 · #83 03-05-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

A Reagan blunder that is not talked about much.
Seemed reasonable at the time.

skip ahead Hammas? or Hamass?

otisotisotis · #84 03-05-2009, 08:33 PM

memories....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkmckYTJgEQ

lol

hoovesupsideyourhead · #85 03-05-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

A Reagan blunder that is not talked about much.
Seemed reasonable at the time.

what was the blunder..the plan worked..and the next prez pulled the blunder
by snubbing obama ur osama after the afgan war..and then again when he could have taken him out in africa..but didnt pull the trigger..

Danzig · #86 03-05-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

A Reagan blunder that is not talked about much.
Seemed reasonable at the time.

it was a blunder? i thought afganistan beating russia helped us win the cold war? i would think the blunder was in us thinking just because once upon a time we helped afganistan that they would always be on 'our side'-they were on their own side, just like we are. don't forget, once upon a time, iran was an ally, before the ayatollah. and then iraq was our 'ally'. for too long, our foreign policy was based on 'the enemy of our enemy is our friend'. wrong.

dellinger63 · #87 03-05-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by otisotisotis

memories....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkmckYTJgEQ

lol

this explains a lot

sick to sit thru it........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah9W24oMIRc

Honu · #88 03-05-2009, 09:04 PM

The blunder was Bill Clinton not taking Bin Laden when his head was offered to him , TWICE .
Now that Obama is president the terrorists now love us and wouldnt think of hurting us ever again.

#89 03-05-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

it was a blunder? i thought afganistan beating russia helped us win the cold war? i would think the blunder was in us thinking just because once upon a time we helped afganistan that they would always be on 'our side'-they were on their own side, just like we are. don't forget, once upon a time, iran was an ally, before the ayatollah. and then iraq was our 'ally'. for too long, our foreign policy was based on 'the enemy of our enemy is our friend'. wrong.

WHAT?

It would have been better to put the Russians in the situation we are in right
now. Have the thing drawn out in hindsight. Hell yes it was
a blunder. We gave weapon technology to people that think
women should be treated like farm animals and that democracy
is a farce. What the heck would the Russians get from being
pestered constantly in mountains? They lost the Cold War themselves.
Their system demanded that. The Russian stupidity in Afghanistan
was their own doing. In hindsight I wish they had stayed longer.
We helped them get out way too quickly.

ANd let us not forget letting 200 marines sit in one
big building in Lebanon so they could all get blown
up together. A brilliant move by Reagan.
a show of force

dellinger63 · #90 03-05-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu

The blunder was Bill Clinton not taking Bin Laden when his head was offered to him , TWICE .
Now that Obama is president the terrorists now love us and wouldnt think of hurting us ever again.

kankle ankles knows where he is

#91 03-05-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu

The blunder was Bill Clinton not taking Bin Laden when his head was offered to him , TWICE .
Now that Obama is president the terrorists now love us and wouldnt think of hurting us ever again.

Yes.
Especially now that Bush has successfully
produced about twice as many as there were
before.

This is fun.
Still trying to time the moment I switch back
to the right.

Cannon Shell · #92 03-05-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Yes.
Especially now that Bush has successfully
produced about twice as many as there were
before.

This is fun.
Still trying to time the moment I switch back
to the right.

Bush produced terrorists too? Is there anything else to blame him for? And I'm trying to figure out what weapons that were give to Afganistan 30 years ago that were used against us?

Honu · #93 03-06-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Yes.
Especially now that Bush has successfully
produced about twice as many as there were
before.

This is fun.
Still trying to time the moment I switch back
to the right.

Bullsheep and you know it , dude they were always there , biding their time waiting until just the right moment , you cant say that because we retaliated that produced more chaos. How many times had terrorists attacked us before ? Too many starting during the Carter administration and really until now when we starting fighting back ,do they all come to the surface.
I would rather have all my tax dollars spent fighting them than giving it to people who made bad choices , people who managed unwisley and buisness that was done unethically.

#94 03-06-2009, 12:14 AM

Rupert Pupkin · #95 03-06-2009, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Clearly that's what I said. I'm just getting a huge kick out of this thread. Watching the Republicans be the Chicken Littles six weeks into a Democratic presidency when eight years of a disastrous Republican administration caused them no concern is freaking delicious.

I'm reserving my opinion on how well Obama is doing on the economy considering the stimulus just passed last week. I think his closing of Guantanamo and denunciation of torture is a major step in the right direction, and the fact that the unnecessary $2 trillion war that your guy started will end is pretty cool, though I'm not happy with his planned "surge" in Afghanistan. I certainly don't think it's unreasonable or radical to not yet make extreme declarations about his Presidency one way or another.

From what I have been reading, Obama's war on terror may resemble Bush's.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29249066

steve · #96 03-06-2009, 07:04 AM

there was democracy once in Iran, too, but when their elected officials wanted to nationalize the oil the british and ameicans could not let such a thing happen and the shah was installed.

#97 03-06-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Bush produced terrorists too? Is there anything else to blame him for? And I'm trying to figure out what weapons that were give to Afganistan 30 years ago that were used against us?

If Obama can end the world after 2 months,
I claim the right to blame George Bush for AIDS.

We trained the Afghans and soon to be
Al Q. They learned well how to fight a war
when out manned and out gunned. It was
a signficant step.
We gave them stinger missles.
While never used against us, they have been used
against India (in their war against terrorism which
we back).

#98 03-06-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu

Bullsheep and you know it , dude they were always there , biding their time waiting until just the right moment , you cant say that because we retaliated that produced more chaos. How many times had terrorists attacked us before ? Too many starting during the Carter administration and really until now when we starting fighting back ,do they all come to the surface.
I would rather have all my tax dollars spent fighting them than giving it to people who made bad choices , people who managed unwisley and buisness that was done unethically.

oh heck yes I can dudess.
Especially when we retaliate against
terrorists that are not present.

Lets see what kind of training ground
Iraq and Pakistan evolve into.

Am I doing well holding the left?

Cannon Shell · #99 03-07-2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

If Obama can end the world after 2 months,
I claim the right to blame George Bush for AIDS.

We trained the Afghans and soon to be
Al Q. They learned well how to fight a war
when out manned and out gunned. It was
a signficant step.
We gave them stinger missles.
While never used against us, they have been used
against India (in their war against terrorism which
we back).

Afghans were Taliban, not Al Queda

Cannon Shell · #**100** 03-07-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

oh heck yes I can dudess.
Especially when we retaliate against
terrorists that are not present.

Lets see what kind of training ground
Iraq and Pakistan evolve into.

Am I doing well holding the left?

they cant do much better than Syria or Afganistan or Somolia or Gaza or Iran or Egypt or Yemen or Indochina