Much respect to Mine That Bird

Originally Posted by CSC

To me the story of the race was John Velazquez riding to place in the race rather than trying to win it, he certainly wasn’t in a hurry today despite the honest fractions, a very safe ride I would term it, Big Drama pushed Rachel Alexandra but certainly didn’t break her.

The replay is up on U-Tube and he is at least 3 off the rail
sweeping the leaders out wide. Pretty ridiculous.
Maybe he just got pissed cause the horse reared
on him in the gate. Anyways, a destructive ride.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The replay is up on U-Tube and he is at least 3 off the rail
sweeping the leaders out wide. Pretty ridiculous.
Maybe he just got pissed cause the horse reared
on him in the gate. Anyways, a destructive ride.

Could be, however the 3 wide is immaterial to me, let's just say JV will never be miscontrued for Jerry Bailey on Eddington. The only way Big Drama could win this race was to play catch me if you can, watching JV's arms for the first half it was obvious he wasn't going for it.

[Revidere]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The replay is up on U-Tube and he is at least 3 off the rail
sweeping the leaders out wide. Pretty ridiculous.
Maybe he just got pissed cause the horse reared
on him in the gate. Anyways, a destructive ride.

Right. It couldn't be that the horse he was on was skittish in the gate, stumbled at the start and maybe, just maybe was trying to get out.

Just saying, maybe.

Originally Posted by Revidere

Right. It couldn't be that the horse he was on was skittish in the gate, stumbled at the start and maybe, just maybe was trying to get out.

Just saying, maybe.

He was all of those things.

So this means he wanted no part of the rail...
Was he trying to leave the track from the one hole
for a good part of the race
and JV merely kept him on the track.

I guess so...

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I think it is a good thing Rachel did not
run in the Derby. Mine that Bird is clearly
a tough horse.

If she runs in the Belmont,He will beat her.

Originally Posted by Left Bank

If she runs in the Belmont,He will beat her.

Not necessarily if they go slow.

She was wide and right on a very rigorous pace
and survived. She ran a hell of a race and
so did he.

Really gonna have to wait and see how all
came out of this. I think the race was
much tougher on her based on Borel's quotes.

[ddthetide]

i tip my hat to MTB ! he beat me again. i figured he'a run a nice race but would be off the board. congrats to MTB and connections, he's a very NICE horse.

congrats to Musket Man also. he looks to be the consistant horse that will show up for every race.

RA is a freak, what else can you say.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

He's not going there. Baffert is taking him back to California, give him a little break and look forward to the rest of the year that includes the Breeders Cup in his own backyard.

Excuse me while I remove my tounge from my cheek...

[MISTERGEE]

ok, how long before MTB is sold?

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

ok, how long before MTB is sold?

Gelding. If he was intact, he would've been gobbled up in the last two weeks.

[MISTERGEE]

true

[Seattleallstar]

Mine that bird is still a piece of ****, who we will never hear from again. I would be surprised as hell if he won a race of any consequence ever again, I sure do see alot of 3rd and 4ths though

[Riot]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

i tip my hat to MTB ! he beat me again. i figured he'a run a nice race but would be off the board. congrats to MTB and connections, he's a very NICE horse.

congrats to Musket Man also. he looks to be the consistant horse that will show up for every race.

RA is a freak, what else can you say.

I agree, but thought he looked like a drunken sailor weaving down the stretch - hope he came out of the race okay, just tired.

[packerbacker7964]

Bob Baffert said it himself he needs to get POTN back to Cali to race on the Waxy stuff. There's lots of money to be made out West for the horse.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

Mine that bird is still a piece of ****, who we will never hear from again. I would be surprised as hell if he won a race of any consequence ever again, I sure do see alot of 3rd and 4ths though

He beat you out of the exacta tri and super too huh?

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

He beat you out of the exacta tri and super too huh?

nopers played a tri super with rachel and flying private on top, having same 2 along with pioneer, friesan fire, musket man, general quarters.

[richard burch]

i like him in the belmont ,if he goes

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

nopers played a tri super with rachel and flying private on top, having same 2 along with pioneer, friesan fire, musket man, general quarters.

Sorry to belabor this any further but the way I read it had you used him instead of potn, ff, or gq you would have hit both the tri and super.

So I guess he beat you out.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

Sorry to belabor this any further but the way I read it had you used him instead of potn, ff, or gq you would have hit both the tri and super.

So I guess he beat you out.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Ran his ass off, and would've caught the filly if the race were another sixteenth. I thought he was done in midstretch but he kept coming. Great, great race.

not necessarily. and since it isn't, a moot point.