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Old 08-15-2009, 08:00 PM
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What is socialist about England?
their own socialist party for 3. Need I go further? Cause I can.
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Old 08-15-2009, 08:02 PM
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their own socialist party for 3. Need I go further? Cause I can.
Wow. You'd better tell Parliament they are Socialists
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Old 08-15-2009, 08:05 PM
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they have universal health care and spell program wrong. the evidence is overwhelming.
Ah. I thought it was because of the way they pronounce, "schedule".
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Wow. You'd better tell Parliament they are Socialists
Don't have to they already know they're there. In fact they don't even hide it unlike ours.
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Don't have to they already know they're there. In fact they don't even hide it unlike ours.
I think 1940's Germany was the last non-Socialist country in your guy's mind.

You throw that word around and you don't even know what it really means
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And your biggest bitch session is over Health Care. Screw the Mom who has lost it because her Son died in the Bush family war, but let's beat the party that is trying to improve HEALTH CARE to death. You may not agree with how he is going about it and I don't 100% either, but at least someone is doing something about it, or at least trying. Republicans are the first to admit the system sucks, but their "man" didn't do jack sh+t. You just want every man, woman and child for them selves and the best man left standing wins. F+ck that...I'm so sick of the right whining and crying and moaning when they don't like something. Suck it up people. You survived the Clinton years and even now admit it wasn't so bad. We are all lucky to have survived the idiot years..well, except the countless who died in the war while Dubya' was being fitted for a bomber jacket and his minions were trying to figure out how many "s" in "Mission Accomplished".
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I think 1940's Germany was the last non-Socialist country in your guy's mind.

You throw that word around and you don't even know what it really means
I may be wrong but believe there is a political party in England who proudly call themselves the Socialist Party.
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I may be wrong but believe there is a political party in England who proudly call themselves the Socialist Party.
It's kind of funny, but I looked up Socialist Party, at least in England, and lots could be "Republican" Party...You'll only be happy when some guy from Wyoming puts a bullet in Obama's head..then the haters will sleep at night.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociali...land_and_Wales)
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And your biggest bitch session is over Health Care. Screw the Mom who has lost it because her Son died in the Bush family war, but let's beat the party that is trying to improve HEALTH CARE to death. You may not agree with how he is going about it and I don't 100% either, but at least someone is doing something about it, or at least trying. Republicans are the first to admit the system sucks, but their "man" didn't do jack sh+t. You just want every man, woman and child for them selves and the best man left standing wins. F+ck that...I'm so sick of the right whining and crying and moaning when they don't like something. Suck it up people. You survived the Clinton years and even now admit it wasn't so bad. We are all lucky to have survived the idiot years..well, except the countless who died in the war while Dubya' was being fitted for a bomber jacket and his minions were trying to figure out how many "s" in "Mission Accomplished".
You can't cry about war when Obama is ramping up efforts in the war where Dubya said Mission Accomplished.

It just seems...I don't know...hypocritical...especially when you bring up deaths of soldiers. Like somehow the war is justified cause there is a Democrat in office.
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Old 08-15-2009, 10:13 PM
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And your biggest bitch session is over Health Care. Screw the Mom who has lost it because her Son died in the Bush family war,.
No one has said that and I'm not sure how a death of a GI son affects the mother's insurance? But by changing everything just to change, and this isn't junk cars, is crazy. OB's plan will pool a good chunk money going now into Medicaid to some general fund for everyone. Of course the elderly are concerned and to call them Rep pawns or shills was a really bad idea.

Then OB claims AARP supports his plan and because of that surely the elderly aren't afraid of losing health care. AARP comes out and says they haven't given support and it's chalked up as misspeak.

He uses the Post Office vs. UPS vs. FedEx seemingly believing people somehow prefer the Post Office?

Today it's the insurance companies' fault....

Bush's detractors certainly were heard and seen during the last 8 years so doesn't the other side have the same right? You can want us to suck it up all you want, just don't hold your breath, as we're a pretty stubborn bunch.
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[quote=Coach Pants]You can't cry about war when Obama is ramping up efforts in the war where Dubya said Mission Accomplished.

It just seems...I don't know...hypocritical...especially when you bring up deaths of soldiers. Like somehow the war is justified cause there is a Democrat in office.[/QUOTE

You may not agree with a lot of stuff I post, but I would never casually use "deaths of soldiers" that way. One person started a war, one person is trying to end it. Maybe not in the best way, but if he doesn't go into Afganahistan and there is a terrorist strike based there, then what? The dude can't win...and I'm surprised you can't see that.
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No one has said that and I'm not sure how a death of a GI son affects the mother's insurance? But by changing everything just to change, and this isn't junk cars, is crazy. OB's plan will pool a good chunk money going now into Medicaid to some general fund for everyone. Of course the elderly are concerned and to call them Rep pawns or shills was a really bad idea.

Then OB claims AARP supports his plan and because of that surely the elderly aren't afraid of losing health care. AARP comes out and says they haven't given support and it's chalked up as misspeak.

He uses the Post Office vs. UPS vs. FedEx seemingly believing people somehow prefer the Post Office?

Today it's the insurance companies' fault....

Bush's detractors certainly were heard and seen during the last 8 years so doesn't the other side have the same right? You can want us to suck it up all you want, just don't hold your breath, as we're a pretty stubborn bunch.
Bush's detractors picked and chose their spots. The hatred from the Right has even Republican's scared.
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Old 08-15-2009, 10:28 PM
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Bush's detractors picked and chose their spots. The hatred from the Right has even Republican's scared.
Like him having remotely flown airplanes into the World Trade Center or somehow attacking New Orleans with a hurricane?
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Like him having remotely flown airplanes into the World Trade Center or somehow attacking New Orleans with a hurricane?
Give me a break Dell...Everyone knows he was too busy faking the Moon landing to have done that
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You can't cry about war when Obama is ramping up efforts in the war where Dubya said Mission Accomplished.

It just seems...I don't know...hypocritical...especially when you bring up deaths of soldiers. Like somehow the war is justified cause there is a Democrat in office.[/QUOTE

You may not agree with a lot of stuff I post, but I would never casually use "deaths of soldiers" that way. One person started a war, one person is trying to end it. Maybe not in the best way, but if he doesn't go into Afganahistan and there is a terrorist strike based there, then what? The dude can't win...and I'm surprised you can't see that.
He couldn't win in the best of times. He's a buffoon just like Bush but with a better grade in Public Speaking 101.
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Give me a break Dell...Everyone knows he was too busy faking the Moon landing to have done that
Remember the name Cynthia McKinney?
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And your biggest bitch session is over Health Care. Screw the Mom who has lost it because her Son died in the Bush family war, but let's beat the party that is trying to improve HEALTH CARE to death. You may not agree with how he is going about it and I don't 100% either, but at least someone is doing something about it, or at least trying. Republicans are the first to admit the system sucks, but their "man" didn't do jack sh+t. You just want every man, woman and child for them selves and the best man left standing wins. F+ck that...I'm so sick of the right whining and crying and moaning when they don't like something. Suck it up people. You survived the Clinton years and even now admit it wasn't so bad. We are all lucky to have survived the idiot years..well, except the countless who died in the war while Dubya' was being fitted for a bomber jacket and his minions were trying to figure out how many "s" in "Mission Accomplished".

i think everyone recognizes that our health care needs a serious revamping. but i'd rather they take a long look and come up with a decent plan, not just run through something for the sake of having done something. i'd rather they do nothing then screw things up even more.
the fed has become so much more than it was ever intended to be. too many programs the states should be handling have been given over to the fed, which is a huge mistake, and which leads to fraud and waste. better the fed had kept to national defense, and left everything else to the states. but i guess it's too late for that.
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Remember the name Cynthia McKinney?
Are you trying to say she took votes from Bush?
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Are you trying to say she took votes from Bush?
No this Cynthia McKinney

We know there were numerous warnings of the events to
come on September 11," McKinney said that day. "What did this administration know and when did it know it, about the events of September 11? Who else knew, and why did they not warn the innocent people of New York who were needlessly murdered? What do they have to hide?"


Appearing in print just months after the September 11 attacks, McKinney's charges couldn't be excused. Nor could her list of campaign donors, which included both terrorist sympathizers like Abdurahman Alamoudi, the former executive director of the American Muslim Council, and apparent actual terrorists like former college professor Sami Al-Arian. Nor could her October 12, 2001, letter to Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal, in which she rebuked New York mayor Rudy Giuliani for returning the prince's post-9/11 "gift" of $10 million and urged bin Talal to donate the funds to "charities outside the mayor's control," especially those that dealt with "poor blacks who sleep on the street in the shadows of our nation's Capitol." Giuliani had returned the Saudi's money because it came with the implicit condition that America "address some of the issues that led to such a criminal [9/11] attack," among them "its policies in the Middle East," where "our Palestinian brethren continue to be slaughtered at the hands of Israelis while the world turns the other cheek." To Giuliani, such a statement made excuses for terrorism.

Apparently the apple didn't fall far from the tree as her father's statements are absolutely despicable not just .
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No this Cynthia McKinney

We know there were numerous warnings of the events to
come on September 11," McKinney said that day. "What did this administration know and when did it know it, about the events of September 11? Who else knew, and why did they not warn the innocent people of New York who were needlessly murdered? What do they have to hide?"


Appearing in print just months after the September 11 attacks, McKinney's charges couldn't be excused. Nor could her list of campaign donors, which included both terrorist sympathizers like Abdurahman Alamoudi, the former executive director of the American Muslim Council, and apparent actual terrorists like former college professor Sami Al-Arian. Nor could her October 12, 2001, letter to Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal, in which she rebuked New York mayor Rudy Giuliani for returning the prince's post-9/11 "gift" of $10 million and urged bin Talal to donate the funds to "charities outside the mayor's control," especially those that dealt with "poor blacks who sleep on the street in the shadows of our nation's Capitol." Giuliani had returned the Saudi's money because it came with the implicit condition that America "address some of the issues that led to such a criminal [9/11] attack," among them "its policies in the Middle East," where "our Palestinian brethren continue to be slaughtered at the hands of Israelis while the world turns the other cheek." To Giuliani, such a statement made excuses for terrorism.

Apparently the apple didn't fall far from the tree as her father's statements are absolutely despicable not just .
Where's the link on that one
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