would quality road have beat zen in the b.c.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

This has become hatred for sound competent handicapping.

Oh, if you had some sound competent handicapping on this, then I wouldn't write a thing. QR twirls badly on a dirt track that isn't sheetrock. That, right there, is probably gunna get him beat going 10f against her. All signs point to this horse loving Gulfstream like a ho loved Dangerfields fat wallet in his later years. You see fit to ignore those two items. Oaklawn n'Churchill aren't G Stream. You're gunna keep going back to figures on a track he adores, and a figure earned when he tired going 10f at Belmont. That's the worst 110 Beyer the guy has ever given out. If you would say Rachel is gunna beat Z(especially if it's less than 10f,) then I wouldn't argue it. You're arguing that Z would lose to QR going 10F (while running on a non-Gulfstream surface.) There's no reason to think that's going to happen. Gulfstream is a fake speed trainers paradise. If it wasn't, then Pletcher wouldn't be looking at the ground after almost every K Derby.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

The only part that is incorrect about this statement is "useless"

But using her to pump up Zenyatta's dirt race is useless.


And here I thought that everyone knew Ginger Punch was just a okay horse who took advantage of terrible competition. She was nothing special.

You're making the same mistake they made before the B.C.(she's too slow..can't compete on figures.) She enjoyed the surface at OAK. That's the important thing.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I believe I called Zenyatta a very dangerous horse in the Breeders Cup Classic if Life Is Sweet were to run well in the Distaff the day before.

I also know Zenyatta was the decisive horse that springboarded me to a tournament win worth four figures. She owes me nothing at all to say the least.

This has become hatred for sound competent handicapping. Nothing more and nothing less. Anyone who thinks she would beat Quality Road on dirt is either a fool or is trolling like the guy who stole Bid's login.

Listen (Narcissist Adjacent) I wasn't specifically referring to you. The "not fast enough argument" was the main argument her detractors used before the B.C. So, you've now moved over to the "not fast enough argument," and it's all based on Andy's Bias Figures. She has shown that she'll run the figure required. Stop messing with this bitch. She will own you.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Stop messing with this bitch. She will own you.

No need to have a meltdown.

I didn't mean to mess with you ... for that I'm sorry oh Queen Dark Meat Enthusiast

[10 pnt move up]

If somehow, someway, a 6 year old mare beats a 4year old colt who cranks out 122 beyers where would she rank, ya know, one spot ahead of peppers pride?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

If somehow, someway, a 6 year old mare beats a 4year old colt who cranks out 122 beyers where would she rank, ya know, one spot ahead of peppers pride?

#1 in Mikey's heart!!!!


Mikey Smith!!!! YAY!!!!!

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

QR twirls badly on a dirt track that isn't sheetrock.

So the late November track he debuted on at Aqueduct was sheetrock? As was the track he set a track record over in the Amsterdam at Saratoga?

NT

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

So the late November track he debuted on at Aqueduct was sheetrock? As was the track he set a track record over in the Amsterdam at Saratoga?

NT

Only the great ones don't twirl the lasso on every surface they run.

I'm speaking of horses like Citation, Big Red, Spectacular Bid, and Yankee Bravo.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

So the late November track he debuted on at Aqueduct was sheetrock? As was the track he set a track record over in the Amsterdam at Saratoga?

NT

I haven't watched the maiden race. He's twirling in the stretch of the sprint win at Toga. It's not as big an issue on a really fast track, or around one turn. Sidney's Candy looked good on a soft lead over a very fast track on Monday. Still, he was twirling. That will be an issue going 2 turns for him on a track that's not that fast. Sadler should try to find the fastest track possible for him, and then hope the track is favoring speed on Derby Day.