Performance of the Weekend? - Page 5

Indian Charlie · #81 10-04-2010, 09:54 PM

It also means you shouldn't try to use Yiddish to make yourself look more worldly.

prudery · #82 10-04-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

It also means you shouldn't try to use Yiddish to make yourself look more worldly.

Listen you dolt--I am Jewish dimwit remember ???

And your HOF fort alleged brains means squat .

#83 10-04-2010, 10:08 PM

I hope this conversation doesn't get deleted. Would be nice to read it.

prudery · #84 10-04-2010, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Like I said..the enlighted Zenyatta non bettors..I mean fans "get it", while no one else does.

Off topic, but what's with you and talking about tits, knockers, stones, etc? Frustrated much?

Who said anything about tits ---stop editing me .

Frustrated--don't bet on it ...

AND, we already discussed my alleged non-betting , though I know you enjoy yentzing around with this non topic ...

Dahoss · #85 10-04-2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery

Who said anything about tits ---stop editing me .

Frustrated--don't bet on it ...

AND, we already discussed my alleged non-betting , though I know you enjoy yentzing around with this non topic ...

You just don't see it. Only non Zenyatta fans can see how frustrated you are.

Indian Charlie · #86 10-04-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery

Listen you dolt--I am Jewish dimwit remember ???

And your HOF fort alleged brains means squat .

My bad, I should have realized that since you are on DT, there was a 75% chance of you being Jewish. Still, your Yiddish is poor.

"I am Jewish dimwit remember ???"

Is that like Domo arigato Mr. Roboto?

Fort???

Maybe you don't have English figured out all the way just yet.

prudery · #87 10-04-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

My bad, I should have realized that since you are on DT, there was a 75% chance of you being Jewish. Still, your Yiddish is poor.

"I am Jewish dimwit remember ???"

Is that like Domo arigato Mr. Roboto?

Fort???

Maybe you don't have English figured out all the way just yet.

My typing is poor--you haven't figured that out yet ...

My Yiddish is fine ...

RolloTomasi · #88 10-04-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

And by the way... No one was more impressive, in defeat, than Crown of Thorns. That was some try in the Goodwood.

I don't know, he looked done entering the far turn IMO only to seemingly jump back in it when Twirling Candy hit a brick wall, then was easily picked off by Richard's Kid, who is probably everybody's #10 on their top ten list for the handicap division (unless they also have Awesome Gem on that list).

In a similar vein, I also thought Jaycito's rally in the Norfolk was somewhat illusory. He seemed spent also chasing the early leaders until at the 1/16th pole, when JP Gusto realized he won a 5f race way back in May.

Of course, I have extra insurance as both will be making their first start on dirt if they show up in the BC next out.

prudery · #89 10-04-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

You just don't see it. Only non Zenyatta fans can see how frustrated you are.

A horseplayer with a side of Dr. Ruth--assuredly you can know this through a keyboard in cyberspace--admirable, but completely wrong ...

Indian Charlie · #90 10-04-2010, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery

My typing is poor--you haven't figured that out yet ...

My Yiddish is fine ...

I was not trying to pick on you for Fort. I had no idea what you were saying. Now I get it.

I always figured you for a nudniky goyim.

philcski · #91 10-04-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Actually it has never happened.

Cigar and Pleasantly Perfect couldn't do it … and there were probably other decent 6yos along the way which have tried.

Gives you some idea of what Z is up against here...

Horses to run in the BC at 6 (or higher) since 2000:
Awesome Gem 2009 52-1 7th
Student Council 2008 44-1 11th
Perfect Drift 2006 34-1 8th
Perfect Drift 2005 15-1 3rd
Pleasantly Perfect 2004 5/2 3rd
Azeri 2004 15-1 5th
Bowmans Band 2004 62-1 11th
A Fleets Dancer 2001 146-1 11th

See something in common here? All but Pleasantly Perfect in '04 were 15-1 or higher, and really most were much higher. Any horse that was good enough to compete in the BC that was intact was gone to stud before the age of 6 in 99.9% of cases (PP in '04 a notable exception.) Age isn't the factor that will get Zenyatta beat if she loses... it's the lack of shipping and/or quality competition on her lesser surface.

Cannon Shell · #92 10-04-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer

She would have been a Superstar in any era on any surfaces. Her races at Oaklawn were also dominant.

Of course she could have. She can also talk as well but chooses not to.

On a serious note, too bad the connections didn't take advantage of trying different surfaces in this era. Because great horses like Secretariat or Dr Fager would never have tried to run of a different surface like turf...

Smooth Operator · #93 10-04-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Horses to run in the BC at 6 (or higher) since 2000:
Awesome Gem 2009 52-1 7th
Student Council 2008 44-1 11th
Perfect Drift 2006 34-1 8th
Perfect Drift 2005 15-1 3rd
Pleasantly Perfect 2004 5/2 3rd
Azeri 2004 15-1 5th
Bowmans Band 2004 62-1 11th
A Fleets Dancer 2001 146-1 11th

See something in common here? All but Pleasantly Perfect in '04 were 15-1 or higher, and really most were much higher. Any horse that was good enough to compete in the BC that was intact was gone to stud before the age of 6 in 99.9% of cases (PP in '04 a notable exception.) Age isn't the factor that will get Zenyatta beat if she loses... it's the lack of shipping and/or quality competition on her lesser surface.

A more taxing campaign might've emptied the tank too much.

I think John has her right where he wants her.

By the way, think you meant 'superior' surface…

prudery · #94 10-04-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I was not trying to pick on you for Fort. I had no idea what you were saying. Now I get it.

I always figured you for a nudniky goyim.

Good, I am glad you get it ...

But you handicapped me wrong ...

Indian Charlie · #95 10-04-2010, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery

Good, I am glad you get it ...

But you handicapped me wrong ...

I got the nudnik part right.

prudery · #96 10-04-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Of course she could have. She can also talk as well but chooses not to.

On a serious note, too bad the connections didn't take advantage of trying different surfaces in this era. Because great horses like Secretariat or Dr Fager would never have tried to run of a different surface like turf...

While I am in no way comparing her to Secretariat or Fager, it is noteworthy that Sec ran on the other " different surface " of that time exactly as many times as Z did, and Fager half that ...

Unless you consider a third surface that was in brief use in that era somewhere on the eastern leaky roof circuit--pea gravel .

Cannon Shell · #97 10-04-2010, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Whats kinda sad is the predicament that her owners have put her in, if she loses many are going say "see I told you so", yet in reality its not all that easy for 6 year olds to win the Classic, its only happened a handful of times.

This could have been avoided quite easily.

She probably still jogs but you never know in horse racing.

Are you seriously offering up her age as an excuse as to why she will lose?

prudery · #98 10-04-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I got the nudnik part right.

If you wish to think so ...

Cannon Shell · #99 10-04-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by smartbid09

Zenyatta looked like she was beaten and got up to win at a distance that isn't her favorite. Gary Stevens was there and impressed as well. Garry said 'she just continues to amaze me'.

My pick is Zenyatta.

Funny that she can be 11 for 11 at 1 1/16th, her connection keep choosing to run her that distance and yet somehow it is a weak distance for her...

Gary Stevens is easily amazed

Cannon Shell · #**100** 10-04-2010, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Actually it has never happened.

Cigar and Pleasantly Perfect couldn't do it … and there were probably other decent 6yos along the way which have tried.

Gives you some idea of what Z is up against here...

Yes they secretly add 15 pounds to the saddle of 6 year olds to try to encourage owners to retire horses early. It is the Breeders Cup after all.