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Old 03-19-2011, 07:55 PM
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I'm predicting a 99 Beyer for The Factor.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:00 PM
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I don't really remember anyone saying she was a superstar. Too bad her sire isn't Indian Charlie. Then she'd be awesome.
If her sire was Indian Charlie, she'd be undefeated and would have won the Classic last year.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:01 PM
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If they are smart with Caleb's Posse, they go straight to the Lone Star, Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Indiana Derby route and make a load of cash. He ain't bad.
I thought he moved too soon, but he actually was coming again at the end before the Factor pulled away. Not bad considering the way the track was playing, but to be honest....that turned out to be a pretty weak field. I'm not sure I want anyone in that race on Derby day.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:01 PM
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If her sire was Indian Charlie, she'd be undefeated and would have won the Classic last year.
I agree Betsy.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:01 PM
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I agree Betsy.
I think they should have scratched her today. She should never have entered there in the first place.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:04 PM
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the factor has done nothing wrong
the half was blistering and he still had gas in the tank
i would not bellyache having this horse on derby day
be interesting to see who chases him next
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:04 PM
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Who molested him? Gomez or himself?

The horse couldn't handle going that slow early on. He was coming out of a scorching fast paced sprint race - and Gomez tried to take him back in a two-turn route without a lot of pace.

All of his "trouble" was self made - he simply couldn't relax going that slowly early on.

They either have to try him right on top of the early pace going a route - or cut him back.
I haven't watched the replay but on the first viewing it looked like he checked going into the first turn then somehow dropped himself out of the race.

He's probably a one-turn sprinter. I never really disputed that, his entire damside pedigree is full of sprinters.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:08 PM
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If Baffert ends up on The O'Reilly Factor then I'm going to give up on this sport for good.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:08 PM
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I haven't watched the replay but on the first viewing it looked like he checked going into the first turn then somehow dropped himself out of the race.

He's probably a one-turn sprinter. I never really disputed that, his entire damside pedigree is full of sprinters.
He was in a wrestling match with Gomez. The horse wanted to be forward - and the rider wanted to take him back.

Gomez put the Boston Strangler ride on him - and steadied him repeatedly trying to take him back.

I think he has a better chance - with a rabbit to help him - in a race like the Met Mile than he does in the Derby.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:22 PM
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I'm predicting a 99 Beyer for The Factor.
Pretty sure it will be higher.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:33 PM
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If Baffert ends up on The O'Reilly Factor then I'm going to give up on this sport for good.
I'm with you. I have one foot out the door anyway, that'll be the final straw.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:33 PM
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Pretty sure it will be higher.
His number is close. Probably will come back a 100 ... though it will be interesting see if they cut race #4 loose.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:53 PM
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His number is close. Probably will come back a 100 ... though it will be interesting see if they cut race #4 loose.
You're probably right. Havre de Grace will get a 101 based on her previous races, so The Factor will get a 100. We all know time is pretty much irrelevant when assigning Beyers these days.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:59 PM
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You're probably right. Havre de Grace will get a 101 based on her previous races, so The Factor will get a 100. We all know time is pretty much irrelevant when assigning Beyers these days.
We do?
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:59 PM
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Made me happy to have a future wager on The Factor
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Old 03-19-2011, 09:02 PM
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We do?
It was half tongue-in-cheek, a quarter trying to irritate you for the red boarding call-outs, and a quarter serious.
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Old 03-19-2011, 09:06 PM
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We do?
Let me ask you this: When you predicted a 100 for The Factor, was that based on the day's times, or Havre de Grace's last three Beyers and her final time today vs. The Factor's? Tell the truth.
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Old 03-19-2011, 09:15 PM
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I think Thunder Gulch got tired from the layoff, he was right in position on the turn.

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Old 03-19-2011, 09:26 PM
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Did anyone else think they should have at least put up an inquiry on Eve Giselle in the 8th? I'm sure Glowing Report was done, but still.
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Old 03-19-2011, 09:27 PM
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I hope The Factor wins the Arkansas Derby just like he did today.
it will be fun to see how long this horse can keep up with him if they both run

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