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Old 12-28-2011, 12:25 PM
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:55 second mark

Chantal: "Twirling Candy touched my hind end while I was in motion..."

I'd volunteer for that duty.
Im glad he posted the clip. I had never watched it before. IMO Baffert does nothing wrong at all. I took one thing from the clip, even at the track Bob is always around beautiful woman.
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Old 12-28-2011, 12:32 PM
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Im glad he posted the clip. I had never watched it before. IMO Baffert does nothing wrong at all. I took one thing from the clip, even at the track Bob is always around beautiful woman.
How did you feel about Baffert's comments on the Beyer The Factor got? In case you missed it he said "Best performance by a three year old all year and The Factor gets a 106 beyer. Aqueduct would have given him 116."

Excusing the best performance by a 3 year old part, because no one could really think that. I wonder just how much Baffert knows about figure making. My guess would be zero. Never stops people here from talking about them, so I guess Baffert fits right in.
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Old 12-28-2011, 12:42 PM
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How did you feel about Baffert's comments on the Beyer The Factor got? In case you missed it he said "Best performance by a three year old all year and The Factor gets a 106 beyer. Aqueduct would have given him 116."

Excusing the best performance by a 3 year old part, because no one could really think that. I wonder just how much Baffert knows about figure making. My guess would be zero. Never stops people here from talking about them, so I guess Baffert fits right in.
I had the figure at Aqueduct at 118 but i am always a bit higher then Baffert when extrapilating Sa fig's to Aqueduct.. I wonder if Baffert was using the inner as a point of reference or the Main? LOL What an stupid thing to say. Talk up your horse all you want,its a business we get it but enough of the BS about figs already. Does he really think Rothko ran a 113?
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Old 12-28-2011, 12:46 PM
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I had the figure at Aqueduct at 118 but i am always a bit higher then Baffert when extrapilating Sa fig's to Aqueduct.. I wonder if Baffert was using the inner as a point of reference or the Main? LOL What an stupid thing to say. Talk up your horse all you want,its a business we get it but enough of the BS about figs already. Does he really think Rothko ran a 113?
I think you should start making Mo Figures. I'd buy 'em.
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Old 12-28-2011, 12:49 PM
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How did you feel about Baffert's comments on the Beyer The Factor got? In case you missed it he said "Best performance by a three year old all year and The Factor gets a 106 beyer. Aqueduct would have given him 116."

Excusing the best performance by a 3 year old part, because no one could really think that. I wonder just how much Baffert knows about figure making. My guess would be zero. Never stops people here from talking about them, so I guess Baffert fits right in.

I tend to agree. He demolished a good group of horses. He went sub 1.20, the runner up is super lightly raced and could have easily ran an improved big fig number. That horse has improved every race since I crushed him at Toga in his maiden breaker vs that slug from Arlington who came in with a big fig synthetic second.
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Old 12-28-2011, 12:58 PM
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I tend to agree. He demolished a good group of horses. He went sub 1.20, the runner up is super lightly raced and could have easily ran an improved big fig number. That horse has improved every race since I crushed him at Toga in his maiden breaker vs that slug from Arlington who came in with a big fig synthetic second.
Since you agree maybe you can explain why the number should be higher. Saying what the time was isn't enough. A lot of factors go into making the figure and I'd like to see you break it down.

Believe it or not they don't just look at who ran second and make a guess from there.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:02 PM
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Since you agree maybe you can explain why the number should be higher. Saying what the time was isn't enough. A lot of factors go into making the figure and I'd like to see you break it down.

Believe it or not they don't just look at who ran second and make a guess from there.
Ill pass on that. Your asking leading questions and Im answering. I dont have to break down anything. I said I would tend to agree. The Factor is special when hes right, maybe even better when he gets things his own way. I thought he was over the top coming in. I was wrong.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:04 PM
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Since you agree maybe you can explain why the number should be higher. Saying what the time was isn't enough. A lot of factors go into making the figure and I'd like to see you break it down.

Believe it or not they don't just look at who ran second and make a guess from there.
This explaination should be good ..Is it after 1pm I can start drinking
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:05 PM
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Ill pass on that. Your asking leading questions and Im answering. I dont have to break down anything. I said I would tend to agree. The Factor is special when hes right, maybe even better when he gets things his own way. I thought he was over the top coming in. I was wrong.
What does "special" has to do with a BSF?
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:09 PM
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What does "special" has to do with a BSF?
Your drinking already dude. Go look at your last 5-10 posts. I said I tend to agree with Bob. He is the best trainer ever, we are fans. Ill stick with Bob, I dont have to explain anything.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:13 PM
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Your drinking already dude. Go look at your last 5-10 posts. I said I tend to agree with Bob. He is the best trainer ever, we are fans. Ill stick with Bob, I dont have to explain anything.
I love Baffert I think he is a great trainer and is great fun for the game. The point was his obsurd comments on his charge. The Factor is ok, as long as he gets his own way for the first 4's save that he sucks.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:14 PM
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I love Baffert I think he is a great trainer and is great fun for the game. The point was his obsurd comments on his charge. The Factor is ok, as long as he gets his own way for the first 4's save that he sucks.
OK.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:16 PM
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Ill pass on that. Your asking leading questions and Im answering. I dont have to break down anything. I said I would tend to agree. The Factor is special when hes right, maybe even better when he gets things his own way. I thought he was over the top coming in. I was wrong.
I'm not asking leading questions at all. You said you agree and I'd like to see why you agree based on the way Beyers are calculated.

Of course you don't have to do anything, but I just assumed you had more evidence the number is incorrect.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:17 PM
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I'm not asking leading questions at all. You said you agree and I'd like to see why you agree based on the way Beyers are calculated.

Of course you don't have to do anything, but I just assumed you had more evidence the number is incorrect.
No more evidence Hoss.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:17 PM
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Your drinking already dude. Go look at your last 5-10 posts. I said I tend to agree with Bob. He is the best trainer ever, we are fans. Ill stick with Bob, I dont have to explain anything.
I havent started drnking waiting for you to CREATE a case for a 116 BSF and how the Factor is SPECIAL and FACTS which support Baferts claims.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:19 PM
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Of course you don't have to do anything, but I just assumed you had more evidence the number is incorrect.
Probably the most compelling evidence was his own opinion that The Factor was "over the top".

Makes total sense that the exact opposite, The Factor running a new career top, would play out.

Mr. Commons improved, too.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:20 PM
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I think I'm going to go start drinking now.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:28 PM
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I think I'm going to go start drinking now.
do it fast and it will be a special drink..
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:29 PM
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Ill pass on that. Your asking leading questions and Im answering. I dont have to break down anything. I said I would tend to agree. The Factor is special when hes right, maybe even better when he gets things his own way. I thought he was over the top coming in. I was wrong.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:57 PM
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I think if Baffert saw that the most clueless person on the internet agreed with him he would admit his error...at the very least.
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