BREAKING: Second source confirms Reid's allegations Romney paid no taxes for 10 year

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

34K down payment on a hotel or service station and showing 8 bucks an hour job and the BANKS will be lining up to loan you money...

yeah, and there are also plenty of places paying out tons of overtime as well. it's so simple! and since it's so easy to get by on $320 a week before taxes, surely you could save up every bit of that overtime.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

What I don't get is how you are supposed to live on $8 an hour while you are saving all that overtime money up.

You need at least $15 an hour in the US to have a decent life.

Hello? America? Other countries do quality-of-life better, and we can get back to that, too!

Because gawd knows, we lost the realistic American Dream possibility (where one dad worked and that was enough to afford a good life, while mom stayed home in the house with the kids, and everyone had food, savings, retirement and vacations) back in the late 1970's.

Dell's view of saying, "you can still have part of that, if you work 80-100 hours a week" is a cruel, absurd, destructive, terrible way to live. Better we work towards making quality of life good for all citizens in America, and return it to being the land of opportunity and good lives.

Which of these countries is currently operating a stable economy?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Which of these countries is currently operating a stable economy?

Hey Greece invented sex. Though admittedly other countries introduced it to women.

Sorry I know that was bad.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Which of these countries is currently operating a stable economy?

The ones that do not buy into "austerity". See double-dip recession, England.

The world economy was tanked by the possessors of most of the money being reckless. That's pretty simply and apparent, no? LIBOR?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

The ones that do not buy into "austerity". See double-dip recession, England.

The world economy was tanked by the possessors of most of the money being reckless. That's pretty simply and apparent, no? LIBOR?

Specific countries, please with facts and figures about how well they are doing financially.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, and there are also plenty of places paying out tons of overtime as well. it's so simple! and since it's so easy to get by on $320 a week before taxes, surely you could save up every bit of that overtime.

Yea all of those Patels and Singhs who started in dives and gas stations getting robbed weekly and now own branded hotels and petroleum centers are just front men for guys like Romney.

[Riot]

America: we could choose to invest in ourselves, in a good life for all of us (except I truly think we feel too guilty to do so, due to our crazy Puritan religious roots) for our country, or continue with "not". Continue to be angry, resentful, selfish, hoarding, envious, class-religion-color-stratified ...

http://www.bluezones.com/programs/bl...s-communities/

World Happiness Report
http://www.earth.columbia.edu/articles/view/2960

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Specific countries, please with facts and figures about how well they are doing financially.

Read a newspaper.

What specifically are you looking for? You denying the fact that the available money in the (free) world has never been more stratified to the possession of an upper class of elite that run our governments and banks, set their own interest rates and own the laws? You think that is not true?

Look at the larger picture - you're down in the weeds of "which economies are specifically doing well and by how many dollars" That wasn't my point.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Which of these countries is currently operating a stable economy?

She must be talking about France as they have the model she loves, though I think it is arguable that France is a first world country.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Yea all of those Patels and Singhs who started in dives and gas stations getting robbed weekly and now own branded hotels and petroleum centers are just front men for guys like Romney.

lol
your leaps of imagination are rather amusing. how do you do it? you take a comment and just run with it in your own direction. exactly how do you infer any of that from what i wrote?

[dellinger63]

and when I get time I'll find the story of an American woman in her 30's who after leaving her husband for beating the crap out of her, moved into a shelter and began real estate school. After working as a broker for 10 yrs.

She and her son started a real estate development company and have probably built 5K condos starting at 300K not to mention hotels and a resort.

So it can be done here. But why work when you can beg, borrow and steal.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

lol
your leaps of imagination are rather amusing. how do you do it? you take a comment and just run with it in your own direction. exactly how do you infer any of that from what i wrote?

You said it was impossible to live on minimum wage and save. If you go back a page you'll find a story of a runaway who began with $500 f'n dollars and now owns the old Eisenhower Airforce Base in Key West just to name one property. It is possible to save.

It might not be possible with a car, cable, a cell phone, designer shoes, a big screen TV, even healthcare etc but it's possible.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

You said it was impossible to live on minimum wage and save. If you go back a page you'll find a story of a runaway who began with $500 f'n dollars and now owns the old Eisenhower Airforce Base in Key West just to name one property. It is possible to save.

It might not be possible with a car, cable, a cell phone, designer shoes, a big screen TV, even healthcare etc but it's possible.

no, i didn't say that. you need to slow down, read more carefully, and not put words in peoples' mouths. you can't take what people post and twist it-well, i know you do it, but it doesn't help your argument when you do that.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Read a newspaper.

What specifically are you looking for? You denying the fact that the available money in the (free) world has never been more stratified to the possession of an upper class of elite that run our governments and banks, set their own interest rates and own the laws? You think that is not true?

Look at the larger picture - you're down in the weeds of "which economies are specifically doing well and by how many dollars" That wasn't my point.

You said other countries have better ways of life for their citizens, I would like to know if any of those countries with all the happy people that do not have to work very hard are doing well financially. I choose not to read a newspaper to prove your point, I would like you to prove your point.
If we need to sacrifice what remains of this once great country for everyone to be happy I would like to see the future represented in one of the many countries you are suggesting we emulate.
Please?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

lol
your leaps of imagination are rather amusing. how do you do it? you take a comment and just run with it in your own direction. exactly how do you infer any of that from what i wrote?

If you put a in your post it proves you are right and everyone else is a boob no matter how inconceivable (100+ people with less than $30 bucks to making over a million a year). Didn't you know that?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

You said other countries have better ways of life for their citizens, I would like to know if any of those countries with all the happy people that do not have to work very hard are doing well financially. I choose not to read a newspaper to prove your point, I would like you to prove your point.
If we need to sacrifice what remains of this once great country for everyone to be happy I would like to see the future represented in one of the many countries you are suggesting we emulate.
Please?

I already provided two links for you to review, regarding what I was talking about, and the other countries I am referencing.

YOU changed the subject completely to a new topic, "which of these countries are currently operating on a stable economy", which is not anything I was discussing.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

If you put a in your post it proves you are right and everyone else is a boob no matter how inconceivable (100+ people with less than $30 bucks to making over a million a year). Didn't you know that?

no, i didn't. i'll try to keep that in mind in future.

[dellinger63]

Our forefathers WALKED west thousands of miles for opportunity and jobs yet some people today don't want a job if it requires being on your feet too long or God forbid taking more than one bus. Too easy to demand someone else pay for it.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Our forefathers WALKED west thousands of miles for opportunity and jobs yet some people today don't want a job if it requires being on your feet too long or God forbid taking more than one bus. Too easy to demand someone else pay for it.

Hate, envy and demonizing the other are a piss-poor way to live a life, or run a country.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

I already provided two links for you to review, regarding what I was talking about, and the other countries I am referencing.

YOU changed the subject completely to a new topic, "which of these countries are currently operating on a stable economy", which is not anything I was discussing.

SO as long as the quality of life for citizens is good, the effect on the economy is irrelevant. Got it, thank you.