Jockey shenanigans mar BC prep races

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

The rabbits can win defense is much better than the "I'm an insider, thus, I know better than you" defense.

Stealing money is not ok Chuck, no matter how hard you try to obfuscate the matter.

Saying it's okay because it happens all the time is the response of a spineless pusssy.

A lot more horses win going wide in the first turn than rabbits.
You dont have to be an insider to know that.

No ones money was stolen, it went into the pockets of the sharper players.

Your last sentence doesn't deserve a response.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Your last sentence doesn't deserve a response.

Yeah, the spineless part was totally uncalled for.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The rabbits can win defense?

Repeating someone's valid comment does not nullify it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yeah, the spineless part was totally uncalled for.

lol

Chief called me a ***** one day. Was one of the funniest things ever.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by jms62

Repeating someone's valid comment does not nullify it.

The validity of rabbits might win so its ok is far from a given.
Horses that go wide in the first turn win with a lot more frequency than rabbits.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The two incidents are completely incomparable. Espinoza made Shared Belief go slightly wider than he would've gone normally. Even though NYRA somehow hasn't made available a head-on of the JCGC, it looked like Alvarado could've killed Rajiv. Not remotely the same thing.

spineless pusssy

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Shared belief got floated out. That's racing. 7 days is ridiculous.

Spineless!

[Pants II]

Chuck is right even though he blatantly disregards the multi-quote option just so he can BE RIGHT.

We get it. You're never wrong on anything. Ever. Omnipotent Chuck.

It must mean Todd Pletcher is a god above gods.

FFS I hate this sport. WTF am I doing reading this ****ing garbage?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Chuck is right even though he blatantly disregards the multi-quote option just so he can BE RIGHT.

We get it. You're never wrong on anything. Ever. Omnipotent Chuck.

It must mean Todd Pletcher is a god above gods.

FFS I hate this sport. WTF am I doing reading this ****ing garbage?

**** you

**** you

No Baffert is

You are a spneless pusssy too

[ateamstupid]

I singled Cay to Pomeroy in the 3rd race at Belmont today because he looked for all the world like lone speed. Instead, Jose Ortiz unexpectedly hard sent Starship Captain after him, which was clearly a suicide mission. Cay to Pomeroy won the battle but lost the war, getting passed by two closers late and killing my multis. Starship Captain finished a very distant 4th. I DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION!!!

[jms62]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I singled Cay to Pomeroy in the 3rd race at Belmont today because he looked for all the world like lone speed. Instead, Jose Ortiz unexpectedly hard sent Starship Captain after him, which was clearly a suicide mission. Cay to Pomeroy won the battle but lost the war, getting passed by two closers late and killing my multis. I DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION!!!

Really Joey? Disappointed that you belittle our argument.. Because it has nothing whatsoever to do with the situation you just presented.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by jms62

Really Joey? Disappointed that you belittle our argument.. Because it has nothing whatsoever to do with the situation you just presented.

I think your argument would have validity if you weren't clinging on to the Shared Belief race as an example. That wasn't stiffing a horse, it was race-riding the overwhelming favorite with a hopeless longshot. Sky Kingdom was never winning that race or even competing in any scenario, so I don't understand how him making things a little tougher on the big chalk is such an outrage.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yeah, the spineless part was totally uncalled for.

Of the two words, spineless and pusssy, oh, nevermind..

[jms62]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I think your argument would have validity if you weren't clinging on to the Shared Belief race as an example. That wasn't stiffing a horse, it was race-riding the overwhelming favorite with a hopeless longshot.

Well you are absolutely wrong and many of us feel the same way but that is ok. Pretty funny you cite hopeless longshot in the same post where your single was beaten by a hopeless longshot.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by jms62

Well you are absolutely wrong and many of us feel the same way but that is ok. Pretty funny you cite hopeless longshot in the same post where your single was beaten by a hopeless longshot.

What's even funnier is I liked the winner enough to use underneath but couldn't pull the trigger on top. If I had known JLO was gonna ride the race to apparently only beat the favorite, I might've gotten some of that $71.50 win mutuel. But that's racing. Until we put tiny robots on the horses' backs, jockeys are gonna do dumb sh!t to screw you over from time to time.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

What's even funnier is I liked the winner enough to use underneath but couldn't pull the trigger on top. If I had known JLO was gonna ride the race to apparently only beat the favorite, I might've gotten some of that $71.50 win mutuel. But that's racing. Until we put tiny robots on the horses' backs, jockeys are gonna do dumb sh!t to screw you over from time to time.

Surprised the Pick 5 didn't carry

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I think your argument would have validity if you weren't clinging on to the Shared Belief race as an example. That wasn't stiffing a horse, it was race-riding the overwhelming favorite with a hopeless longshot. Sky Kingdom was never winning that race or even competing in any scenario, so I don't understand how him making things a little tougher on the big chalk is such an outrage.

a little tougher?

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I think your argument would have validity if you weren't clinging on to the Shared Belief race as an example. That wasn't stiffing a horse, it was race-riding the overwhelming favorite with a hopeless longshot. Sky Kingdom was never winning that race or even competing in any scenario, so I don't understand how him making things a little tougher on the big chalk is such an outrage.

Possibly because it was designed as a prep for the BC... not an all out, life or death struggle to the end?
You can't think for a moment that Hollendorfer really gave two sh1ts about the race - he was livid that the effort took too much from the horse.

Baffert whines like a baby when GoD doesn't get a clear lead and then pulls this bush-league horsesh1t.... Art Sherman owes him a steak dinner.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

a little tougher?

Yeah, a little tougher. Jesus, I've never seen a horse getting floated wide on the first turn treated like such a travesty.

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Possibly because it was designed as a prep for the BC... not an all out, life or death struggle to the end?
You can't think for a moment that Hollendorfer really gave two sh1ts about the race - he was livid that the effort took too much from the horse.

Baffert whines like a baby when GoD doesn't get a clear lead and then pulls this bush-league horsesh1t.... Art Sherman owes him a steak dinner.

So the rest of the field is obligated to sit back and let him have a public workout for $300k so he can be even tougher in the BC?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, a little tougher. Jesus, I've never seen a horse getting floated wide on the first turn treated like such a travesty.



So the rest of the field is obligated to sit back and let him have a public workout for $300k so he can be even tougher in the BC?

Going that wide on that hot of a pace for the entire race is very difficult type of trip.