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Old 05-22-2007, 03:46 PM
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FP R7 - #6 Stop the Race
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Old 05-22-2007, 04:47 PM
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Round 9

Fairmount Park R1 - #4 Safeforsure - 2nd - paid $2.10 - Running Total = $105

Fairmount Park R2 #7 Stefanie C (see next post) - 2nd - paid $2.10 - Running Total = $110

Fairmount Park R4 - #1 Freestyle Spirit SCR Substitute #3 Cousin Bill 3rd - paid $2.20 - Running Total = $121

Fairmount Park R6 - #1 Cat on the Grass WON - paid $2.10 - Running Total = $127

Fairmount Park R7 - #6 Stop the Race WON - paid $2.60 - Running Total = $165
Just putting today's results at the end of the thread... I go ape on FP...it's like defending the home turf.
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:14 PM
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5/23

Suffolk R1 - #2 Cruisin on Faith (Out of the Money, try to figure that one out in a 5 horse field)

------Round 9-------

Suffolk R8 - #5 Carlow (my first pick ran 2nd, this one ran LAST)...


HOW MUCH HAVE I LOST IN TOTAL DUNBAR? THAT WOULD BE $900, BY THESE RULES.

------Round 10-------

Suffolk R9 - #9 Satire WON paid $2.20 - Running Total = $110

HOL R1 - #5 Eye Candy Sandi 2nd paid $2.10 - Running Total = $116

HOL R7 - #4 Idiot Proof WON paid $2.10 - Running Total = $122

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Old 05-24-2007, 09:00 AM
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5/24

CD 2nd - Leo's Pegasus

BEL 8th - Harlington

HOL 1st - Gemstone Jean

HOL 3rd - Blue Cay

HOL 4th - Windy

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Old 05-24-2007, 11:35 AM
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HOW MUCH HAVE I LOST IN TOTAL DUNBAR? THAT WOULD BE $900, BY THESE RULES.
Yup. You're at -900. You're going to need to finish a couple of 10-bet runs to get back into contention. So far what you've shown is how hard it is to win 10 show bets in a row!

btw, your Harlington pick would give me pause.

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Old 05-24-2007, 11:52 AM
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btw, your Harlington pick would give me pause.

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He's done it on 10 mos. layoff before...


Let's assume the rules of this experiment were 5 straight rather than 10 straight. How often would a person have to win assuming a 75% profit can be shown on average for a 5 race parlay? Over half the time?
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Old 05-24-2007, 01:13 PM
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I'll take the 7 right now in the first at CD. Out of Aces
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Old 05-24-2007, 01:27 PM
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------Round 10-------

Suffolk R9 - #9 Satire WON paid $2.20 - Running Total = $110

HOL R1 - #5 Eye Candy Sandi 2nd paid $2.10 - Running Total = $116

HOL R7 - #4 Idiot Proof WON paid $2.10 - Running Total = $122

5/24

CD R1 - #7 Out of Aces 3rd and paid $2.10 - Running Total = $128

CD R2 - #5 Leo's Pegasus 2nd paid $2.60 - Running Total = $166

HOL R1 - #2 Gemstone Jean WON paid $2.10 - Running Total = $174

BEL R8 - #2 Harlington WON paid $2.50 - Running Total = $218

HOL R3 - #5 Blue Cay WON paid $2.80 - Running Total = $305

HOL R4 - #4 Windy 3rd paid $2.20 - Running Total = $336

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Old 05-24-2007, 02:40 PM
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Let's assume the rules of this experiment were 5 straight rather than 10 straight. How often would a person have to win assuming a 75% profit can be shown on average for a 5 race parlay? Over half the time?
Say you either lose 1 or win 0.75.
If X=% of time you need to win to break even, then

0.75 * X + (-1) * (1-X) = 0. because 1-X is the percent of time that you will lose.

.75X + (X-1) = 0

1.75X = 1

X = 57%.

That's how often you'd have to win to break even under your assumptions for 5-in-a-row.

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Old 05-24-2007, 07:04 PM
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------Round 10-------

Suffolk R9 - #9 Satire WON paid $2.20 - Running Total = $110

HOL R1 - #5 Eye Candy Sandi 2nd paid $2.10 - Running Total = $116

HOL R7 - #4 Idiot Proof WON paid $2.10 - Running Total = $122

CD R1 - #7 Out of Aces 3rd and paid $2.10 - Running Total = $128

CD R2 - #5 Leo's Pegasus 2nd paid $2.60 - Running Total = $166

HOL R1 - #2 Gemstone Jean WON paid $2.10 - Running Total = $174

BEL R8 - #2 Harlington WON paid $2.50 - Running Total = $218

HOL R3 - #5 Blue Cay WON paid $2.80 - Running Total = $305

HOL R4 - #4 Windy 3rd paid $2.20 - Running Total = $336
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Old 05-24-2007, 07:25 PM
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GG Last Race - #1 Itza Hemi
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Old 05-24-2007, 07:56 PM
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhh dammitohell!!! I can't get to 10 for the life of me... that was a LOCK!!! What's goin' on??? Oh well, 9 straight....no luck on the 10th.

Round 11 to commence probably next week.
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Old 05-25-2007, 06:41 PM
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Hi again jman5581. It's a tough game. I was wondering where you would be now if you wagered only 1/2 your bankroll on each horse since you started. You certainly would have your initial wager whatever that may have been.
Anyway good luck on the next round.
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Old 05-26-2007, 05:25 AM
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Hi again jman5581. It's a tough game. I was wondering where you would be now if you wagered only 1/2 your bankroll on each horse since you started. You certainly would have your initial wager whatever that may have been.
I don't think that's necessarily true. Show me some numbers.

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Old 05-26-2007, 05:34 AM
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhh dammitohell!!! I can't get to 10 for the life of me... that was a LOCK!!! What's goin' on??? Oh well, 9 straight....no luck on the 10th.

Round 11 to commence probably next week.
Frustrating, I'm sure! But "a lock" in a maiden claimer? Also, another horse was 9-5, so your horse's 3-2 is not a sign of overwhelming support.

Tough loss, anyway.

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I don't think that's necessarily true. Show me some numbers.

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I'm not going back in the thread to track every wager made but the idea is that if the first wager was $100 and successful (example: first winner pays $2.20. Bankroll=$110. Next wager is $55 to show. Horse loses. Bankroll= $55. Next wager is $28 to show, so on and so forth. While the original $100 may not be left at this point in time the losses that jman5581 has incurred are limited and he has enough winners to offset a periodic loss.
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Old 05-26-2007, 10:16 AM
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------Round 10-------

Suffolk R9 - #9 Satire WON paid $2.20 - Running Total = $110

HOL R1 - #5 Eye Candy Sandi 2nd paid $2.10 - Running Total = $116($112.75)

HOL R7 - #4 Idiot Proof WON paid $2.10 - Running Total = $122($115.55)

CD R1 - #7 Out of Aces 3rd and paid $2.10 - Running Total = $128($118.40)

CD R2 - #5 Leo's Pegasus 2nd paid $2.60 - Running Total = $166($136.10)

HOL R1 - #2 Gemstone Jean WON paid $2.10 - Running Total = $174($139.50)

BEL R8 - #2 Harlington WON paid $2.50 - Running Total = $218($158)

HOL R3 - #5 Blue Cay WON paid $2.80 - Running Total = $305($181.20)

HOL R4 - #4 Windy 3rd paid $2.20 - Running Total = $336($190.20)
I adjusted the amounts using my proposal and after 10 races it's back to square 1 and the original $100 is almost intact.

#1 Itza Hemi lost $95. bankroll =$95
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:25 AM
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I adjusted the amounts using my proposal and after 10 races it's back to square 1 and the original $100 is almost intact.

#1 Itza Hemi lost $95. bankroll =$95

Less risk = less reward, but I think the idea is fairly slick and could work out in one's favor over a LONG period of time... slow and steady can win the race. As in investing.
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:26 AM
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Frustrating, I'm sure! But "a lock" in a maiden claimer? Also, another horse was 9-5, so your horse's 3-2 is not a sign of overwhelming support.

Tough loss, anyway.

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I was caught up in the moment, just trying to complete a round. I hate Golden Gate Fields.
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Old 06-02-2007, 01:07 PM
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Start off Round 11 with Saratoga Lullaby in the 5th at MTH.
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