Prince of Change reaches for dangerous 'retreads!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Oh my god.

What happened...an original thought pop into your head? Say something brilliant. I'm not holding my breath.

[Antitrust32]

[quote=timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

yada yada yada...same BS you been spoutin since ESPN days. What the hell do you believe then? btw...It is Faith that makes people better...I'll dumb it down for you...a moral code!! If you don't have something that anchors you, or guides you, then you're liable to fall for anything that tickles your ears....or sustains your actions.

Man timmi that was like a DALA comment but the opposite way.

Do you understand what is wrong with those sentences?

sounds like a cult-ish point of view to me.

[somerfrost]

[quote=timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

yada yada yada...same BS you been spoutin since ESPN days. What the hell do you believe then? btw...It is Faith that makes people better...I'll dumb it down for you...a moral code!! If you don't have something that anchors you, or guides you, then you're liable to fall for anything that tickles your ears....or sustains your actions.

Again, more attacks on my beliefs, you paint yourself into a corner by your words so I guess the only thing left is another drink of koolade. I don't need to defend my faith, yet somehow you think I do, now why is that? Oh yeah, you have all the answers, only your faith leads to the devine...my faith is inferior, to be ridiculed...I must be going to hell...oops, don't believe such a place exists...more "proof" to you that I am an inferior being. What you are clearly saying is that unless I believe as you do, drink the same koolade, that I don't have a moral code....really, once again, your words cast light on you!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Again, more attacks on my beliefs, you paint yourself into a corner by your words so I guess the only thing left is another drink of koolade. I don't need to defend my faith, yet somehow you think I do, now why is that? Oh yeah, you have all the answers, only your faith leads to the devine...my faith is inferior, to be ridiculed...I must be going to hell...oops, don't believe such a place exists...more "proof" to you that I am an inferior being. What you are clearly saying is that unless I believe as you do, drink the same koolade, that I don't have a moral code....really, once again, your words cast light on you!

[timmgirvan]

[quote=Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Man timmi that was like a DALA comment but the opposite way.

Do you understand what is wrong with those sentences?

sounds like a cult-ish point of view to me.

So what is supposed to hold the fabric of society together?
You don't have a moral code? What drives you or guides you? simple question!

[timmgirvan]

[quote=somerfrost]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Again, more attacks on my beliefs, you paint yourself into a corner by your words so I guess the only thing left is another drink of koolade. I don't need to defend my faith, yet somehow you think I do, now why is that? Oh yeah, you have all the answers, only your faith leads to the devine...my faith is inferior, to be ridiculed...I must be going to hell...oops, don't believe such a place exists...more "proof" to you that I am an inferior being. What you are clearly saying is that unless I believe as you do, drink the same koolade, that I don't have a moral code....really, once again, your words cast light on you!

I asked you a question! You've been sittin in the cat-bird seat for years and now you can't back up what you believe...and somehow that makes me bad because I question what you've purported to believe in? you can't have it both
ways...stand up for something or lay down!

I want to know why it's difficult to spell KOOL-AID

God f.ucking damnit.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

As always I offer you up the same advice. Right before you click "submit reply" look at what you've typed out. You're coming off like a lunatic.

Wasn't talking with you...as always you insinuate yourself into a thread.

[quote=timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Do the scholarship,P! you gonna rack it all up on the crusades? SHEESH

You mentioned it. I guess it was just a minor blip. Whats 3 or 4 mass
infiltrations looking for heathens. Ahhh just nothing. And what was one of the most important reasons our founding fathers left Europe Timm? What was the dominant religion at that time in Europe Timm?

Im sure you can find many other instances of Christians doing the right thing in the name of God. I will agree that the fundamentals of the Judeo-Christian
ways of the law seem very humane... but cmon...

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I want to know why it's difficult to spell KOOL-AID

God f.ucking damnit.

I like spelling it dammit.
For the effect, not affect.

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Boy...are you a dreamer! WTF? We should listen to the scandal plagued UN?
The situation demanded leadership..and since we are the leaders of the free world. The international community is a pack of sheep, sucking at the breast of America. I daresay there'd be no tremendous national debt if we'd cut them off. But we were the moral conscience of the world, always ready to come to the aid in time of tragedy..and tyranny! I pray that some wisdom shows up in Washington.

Oh good Lord Timm.
The world is bigger than just US.

And what am I dreaming about?
Obama will do a better job of listening than Bush.
Will his listening transfer into action? I firmly believe
he will do what he thinks is best for THIS country realizing
we have to deal with OTHER countries.

You just cant put your head in the sand and hide.
WE MUST DEAL WITH OTHER COUNTRIES.
The world is no longer flat for gosh sakes.

[timmgirvan]

[quote=pgardn]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

You mentioned it. I guess it was just a minor blip. Whats 3 or 4 mass
infiltrations looking for heathens. Ahhh just nothing. And what was one of the most important reasons our founding fathers left Europe Timm? What was the dominant religion at that time in Europe Timm?

Im sure you can find many other instances of Christians doing the right thing in the name of God. I will agree that the fundamentals of the Judeo-Christian
ways of the law seem very humane... but cmon...

That would be the Roman Catholic church,I believe, that was the major force in the Crusades. Our founding fathers left England because they didn't want a STATE religion foisted on them.

[Antitrust32]

[quote=timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

So what is supposed to hold the fabric of society together?
You don't have a moral code? What drives you or guides you? simple question!

The morals I have in my own brain is what drives me to be honest. I may not be 100% perfect (obviously cause Im gay right ) but I always try to look out for others and never cause harm to anyone.

Its not a faith, its a commen sense and a common knowledge of what is right and what is wrong.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Oh good Lord Timm.
The world is bigger than just US.

And what am I dreaming about?
Obama will do a better job of listening than Bush.
Will his listening transfer into action? I firmly believe
he will do what he thinks is best for THIS country realizing
we have to deal with OTHER countries.

You just cant put your head in the sand and hide.
WE MUST DEAL WITH OTHER COUNTRIES.
The world is no longer flat for gosh sakes.

You mean capitulate to the other countries,right? Personally I don't think we should consider any source that doesn't share our ideals and goals.

[quote=timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by pgardn

That would be the Roman Catholic church,I believe, that was the major force in the Crusades. Our founding fathers left England because they didn't want a STATE religion foisted on them.

Yes and that state religion was none other than Christianity.
Just like Islamic countries using the rule of Law of the Koran
as interpreted by them.

Are Roman Catholics Christian Timm?

[timmgirvan]

[quote=Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

The morals I have in my own brain is what drives me to be honest. I may not be 100% perfect (obviously cause Im gay right ) but I always try to look out for others and never cause harm to anyone.

Its not a faith, its a commen sense and a common knowledge of what is right and what is wrong.

you took the slight...I didn't give it to you.
You had to have started from something....morally, whether from parents or church or school even. Common sense doesn't dictate things related to rage or passion,for instance.

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

You mean capitulate to the other countries,right? Personally I don't think we should consider any source that doesn't share our ideals and goals.

Capitulate?
Capitulate?

You look at issues that might be benificial to multiple countries
and dont partake, just call it capitulation? Are we capitulating
while meeting with the heads of state about the current world
economic crisis?

What the heck are you suggesting that I suggested? When did I mention
capitulate. I wrote listen to. If we dont listen, how the hell can we understand the correct road to take?

[timmgirvan]

[quote=pgardn]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Yes and that state religion was none other than Christianity.
Just like Islamic countries using the rule of Law of the Koran
as interpreted by them.

Are Roman Catholics Christian Timm?

The Church of England was a form of Christianity, but ruled more for political
power than anything(short version)
Roman Catholics are Christians, but there are many divisions and schisms in
Christianity as there are in Islam and the rest.

[quote=timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The Church of England was a form of Christianity, but ruled more for political
power than anything(short version)
Roman Catholics are Christians, but there are many divisions and schisms in
Christianity as there are in Islam and the rest.

Yes.
Christians getting into politics.
Using their ideas to sway a political party.
Sound familiar?

[somerfrost]

[quote=timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I asked you a question! You've been sittin in the cat-bird seat for years and now you can't back up what you believe...and somehow that makes me bad because I question what you've purported to believe in? you can't have it both
ways...stand up for something or lay down!

So...who made you my boss...LOL!
Just cause you order me to defend my faith doesn't mean I'm under an obligation to do so! Again...you really are blind....everyone paying attention to my posts (admittedly that's not everyone) the past years know what my faith is...unlike you, I don't labor under the arrogance that only my religious beliefs are correct. I'll say it again, we believe that all religions are a path to the devine, one is no better or worse than another. I have no need to convert anyone, all I ask is to be free to believe as I do...I don't need holier-than-thou types trying to show me "the way" and telling me that my faith and myself are inferior because I believe differently. You have demonstrated by your posts here, that you are narrow minded, arrogant and unwilling to accept anything or anyone who believes different than you. I guess that might be considered "name calling" but your words speak for themselves.