Havent they done enough to destroy american business?

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

they cant do much better than Syria or Afganistan or Somolia or Gaza or Iran or Egypt or Yemen or Indochina

Afghanistan and Iraq are closer to Iran.
Syria already has things underway
as does Iran.

As a real estate agent... opening up new territory.

It would be sad to see Egypt become a training
ground instead of a breeding ground given that
we send more aid to them than any other foreign
nation. Their military is fairly brutal in putting this
stuff down right now.

Somalia is for the pirates.
Nahhh I dont know about the rest.
Indochina has seemed to have calmed a bit.
I have no idea why.

[trifecta124]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Clearly that's what I said. I'm just getting a huge kick out of this thread. Watching the Republicans be the Chicken Littles six weeks into a Democratic presidency when eight years of a disastrous Republican administration caused them no concern is freaking delicious.

I'm reserving my opinion on how well Obama is doing on the economy considering the stimulus just passed last week. I think his closing of Guantanamo and denunciation of torture is a major step in the right direction, and the fact that the unnecessary $2 trillion war that your guy started will end is pretty cool, though I'm not happy with his planned "surge" in Afghanistan. I certainly don't think it's unreasonable or radical to not yet make extreme declarations about his Presidency one way or another.

The closing of Guantanamo is a step in the right direction?????? The fact that you are from Brooklyn and you live in the city that is the #1 target for terrorists and you are saying that is a disgrace. This president is returning these pieces of **** to countries that won't even welcome them back. They have admitted that they are in a jihad against innocent Americans and if given the opportunity would love to plan new attacks.....Wake up dude.

[Riot]

Watching the Republicans be the Chicken Littles six weeks into a Democratic presidency when eight years of a disastrous Republican administration caused them no concern is freaking delicious.

I think some would be happier just going in the underground bunker, sealing the door, and listening to Rush Limbaugh while they await the end of the world.

Good lord, the GOP is bowing and scraping to Rush Limbaugh.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by trifecta124

The closing of Guantanamo is a step in the right direction?????? The fact that you are from Brooklyn and you live in the city that is the #1 target for terrorists and you are saying that is a disgrace. This president is returning these pieces of **** to countries that won't even welcome them back. They have admitted that they are in a jihad against innocent Americans and if given the opportunity would love to plan new attacks.....Wake up dude.

i don't think closing gitmo = terrorists on the loose:

Obama also said he was trying to develop a process that "adheres to rule of law" but "doesn't result in releasing people who are intent on blowing us up."

"I think it's going to take some time and our legal teams are working in consultation with our national security apparatus as we speak, to help design exactly what we need to do," Obama said.

"But I don't want to be ambiguous about this. We are going to close Guantanamo and we are going to make sure that the procedures we set up are ones that abide by our Constitution," he said.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I think some would be happier just going in the underground bunker, sealing the door, and listening to Rush Limbaugh while they await the end of the world.

Good lord, the GOP is bowing and scraping to Rush Limbaugh.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123638814117858605.html

Your take is misguided, liberal rhetoric. Limbaugh is NOT a politician and as such isn't bound by the political correctness that politicians are. Unlike his liberal brethren, his show is extremely popular and tremendously successful. It wouldn't be either if his listeners weren't on board with much of what he says. While he often baits and makes outrageous statements as it is his JOB to stir the pot, a lot of what he says not only is true but appeals to a large majority of the conservative population in this country. The same conservative population that the GOP failed get to show up in the last election. It would be foolish for the GOP to ignore the power that Limbaugh has among the conservative base and not to utilize him or simply deal with him despite his penchant for bombast.

Despite the disdain that the left and congressional liberals show for Limbaugh, they do truly fear his message as shown by the Fairness Doctrine, the future fairness doctrines that will surely come disguised as something else and the current Presidents and Democratic leaders obsession with him.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123638814117858605.html

Your take is misguided, liberal rhetoric. Limbaugh is NOT a politician and as such isn't bound by the political correctness that politicians are. Unlike his liberal brethren, his show is extremely popular and tremendously successful. It wouldn't be either if his listeners weren't on board with much of what he says. While he often baits and makes outrageous statements as it is his JOB to stir the pot, a lot of what he says not only is true but appeals to a large majority of the conservative population in this country. The same conservative population that the GOP failed get to show up in the last election. It would be foolish for the GOP to ignore the power that Limbaugh has among the conservative base and not to utilize him or simply deal with him despite his penchant for bombast.

Despite the disdain that the left and congressional liberals show for Limbaugh, they do truly fear his message as shown by the Fairness Doctrine, the future fairness doctrines that will surely come disguised as something else and the current Presidents and Democratic leaders obsession with him.

i thought i read the other day that was dead in the water?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i thought i read the other day that was dead in the water?

It is but you know that it will resurface as a wolf in sheeps clothes.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is but you know that it will resurface as a wolf in sheeps clothes.

probably. when did dems miss the memo that life isn't always fair?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't think closing gitmo = terrorists on the loose:

Obama also said he was trying to develop a process that "adheres to rule of law" but "doesn't result in releasing people who are intent on blowing us up."

"I think it's going to take some time and our legal teams are working in consultation with our national security apparatus as we speak, to help design exactly what we need to do," Obama said.

"But I don't want to be ambiguous about this. We are going to close Guantanamo and we are going to make sure that the procedures we set up are ones that abide by our Constitution," he said.

What Obama says is rhetoric. His rule of law versus terrorist is going to be a losing battle for us. These people arent US citizens and dont fit under our civil criminal laws obviously to all except to the ACLU and other wackos. Our soldiers dont exactly have time to stop and read them their Miranda rights when we capture them.

The truth is that they should have held them in Iraq or wherever else they found them and disposed of them or if of no use released them there. Lots of bad things happen in the world and like it or not the rest of the world doesn't fall under our constitution laws. Maybe you think that I am nuts but wars, terrorism and espionage are a dirty business and no one is going to come out of it without blood on their hands including us. These aren't issues that will ever be nicely resolved in the publics eyes, Guantanamo or not.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123638814117858605.html

Your take is misguided, liberal rhetoric. Limbaugh is NOT a politician and as such isn't bound by the political correctness that politicians are. Unlike his liberal brethren, his show is extremely popular and tremendously successful. It wouldn't be either if his listeners weren't on board with much of what he says. While he often baits and makes outrageous statements as it is his JOB to stir the pot, a lot of what he says not only is true but appeals to a large majority of the conservative population in this country. The same conservative population that the GOP failed get to show up in the last election. It would be foolish for the GOP to ignore the power that Limbaugh has among the conservative base and not to utilize him or simply deal with him despite his penchant for bombast.

Despite the disdain that the left and congressional liberals show for Limbaugh, they do truly fear his message as shown by the Fairness Doctrine, the future fairness doctrines that will surely come disguised as something else and the current Presidents and Democratic leaders obsession with him.

the dems obsession with rush is tactical. he appeals to a sliver of the american public that would rather be "right" than electable.

and every time another republican has to kiss his ass is just one more day they won't have solved the problem of being out of power. dems will continue to point out how outrageous his opinion's are a simple reason. it helps drive a wedge between republican's and the majority of voting american's.

you guys are like dems after the 1980 election. telling yourself the problem was a lack of motivation in the base of a party that only has a shrinking 28% of the registered voter's nationwide is deluded. buy hey, if that's your solution i won't argue.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

probably. when did dems miss the memo that life isn't always fair?

Jesus, dont you read the papers? Fairness is the freakin standard that they base all their policy on. You know it isnt fair that some people dont get bonuses so they will take those away. it isnt fair that some people dont have health insurance so we will fix that. It isnt fair that rich people have and other dont so we will fix that. it isnt fair that business owners make money and the employees dont make as much so we will fix that. We arent treating the detainees at Guantanamo fairly, etc......

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

the dems obsession with rush is tactical. he appeals to a sliver of the american public that would rather be "right" than electable.

and every time another republican has to kiss his ass is just one more day they won't have solved the problem of being out of power. dems will continue to point out how outrageous his opinion's are a simple reason. it helps drive a wedge between republican's and the majority of voting american's.

you guys are like dems after the 1980 election. telling yourself the problem was a lack of motivation in the base of a party that only has a shrinking 28% of the registered voter's nationwide is deluded. buy hey, if that's your solution i won't argue.

For a guy that only has a sliver of the American public he seems to have all you clueless lefties worried. His opinions arent really that outrageous. If they were the Democrats wouldnt obsess so much over him.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

For a guy that only has a sliver of the American public he seems to have all you clueless lefties worried. His opinions arent really that outrageous. If they were the Democrats wouldnt obsess so much over him.

i think my point was we're not worried. i like rush. he does more for democrats than al franken ever did.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i think my point was we're not worried. i like rush. he does more for democrats than al franken ever did.

You dont matter. Your messiah is worried or he wouldn't spend so much time referring and debating him. I will say once again, why do the Democrats spend so much time and effort on trying to discredit Limbaugh if he is viewed as a marginalized voice? Perhaps they prefer to make Rush the story as opposed to the actual issues, kind of like most of the liberals here, yourself included.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You dont matter. Your messiah is worried or he wouldn't spend so much time referring and debating him. I will say once again, why do the Democrats spend so much time and effort on trying to discredit Limbaugh if he is viewed as a marginalized voice? Perhaps they prefer to make Rush the story as opposed to the actual issues, kind of like most of the liberals here, yourself included.

i don't think obama or any other democrat is worried. they're watching the republicans implode and doing everything they can to facilitate the process. putting rush front and center accomplishes that.

you'd do the same thing in our position. it's just good politics.

you guys are so used to an echo chamber where the only opinions you hear are your own you actually think the majority thinks the same. that's fine with me.

i don't mind if your side thinks they've won a debate so long as my side wins the election.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i don't think obama or any other democrat is worried. they're watching the republicans implode and doing everything they can to facilitate the process. putting rush front and center accomplishes that.

you'd do the same thing in our position. it's just good politics.

you guys are so used to an echo chamber where the only opinions you hear are your own you actually think the majority thinks the same. that's fine with me.

i don't mind if your side thinks they've won a debate so long as my side wins the election.

The truth is that what is going on with the GOP right now is immaterial, there isnt a meaningful election for a while. As bad as the country is going and with the slippery slope being greased by your boys (and the witch), the citizens will be more willing to listen to 'radicals' like Rush. Your boy will be a rockstar only for so long. His policies are destructive, antibusiness, anti recovery and in some cases anti American. The general public is pretty stupid and very gullible but the anger will eventually turn on your side and the GOP will be back in power again. It is just the way it works. I just hope that the social agenda being put in place doesnt make recovery impossible without us becoming a European clone. In case you dont know that means LESS personal wealth for each and everyone of us. Or in other words, a far shittier country.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The truth is that what is going on with the GOP right now is immaterial, there isnt a meaningful election for a while. As bad as the country is going and with the slippery slope being greased by your boys (and the witch), the citizens will be more willing to listen to 'radicals' like Rush. Your boy will be a rockstar only for so long. His policies are destructive, antibusiness, anti recovery and in some cases anti American. The general public is pretty stupid and very gullible but the anger will eventually turn on your side and the GOP will be back in power again. It is just the way it works. I just hope that the social agenda being put in place doesnt make recovery impossible without us becoming a European clone. In case you dont know that means LESS personal wealth for each and everyone of us. Or in other words, a far shittier country.

i'm pretty sure you can go back to 1980 and find a lot of dem's holding similar opinions about reagan. i worked on the campaign for a dem congressman in 82 and actually heard him refer to 1980 as the "high water mark" for republicans.

that taught me the value of political astrology.

as bad as it was for dem's through that long stretch of desert, they didn't have anyone with the power of rush acting as a keeper of the faith.

that's why we can both be fans of the man for very different reasons.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i'm pretty sure you can go back to 1980 and find a lot of dem's holding similar opinions about reagan. i worked on the campaign for a dem congressman in 82 and actually heard him refer to 1980 as the "high water mark" for republicans.

that taught me the value of political astrology.

as bad as it was for dem's through that long stretch of desert, they didn't have anyone with the power of rush acting as a keeper of the faith.

that's why we can both be fans of the man for very different reasons.

except i never said i was a fan. While I believe that he is correct in many of his rants and I personally believe that the Republicans should return to their roots economically, Rush spends far too much time fawning over Rush which distorts his overall message. In 1980 it is hard to believe anyone would admit to being a Dem. Though the lefties in the media would have you believe that Obama won in a landslide, the election was much closer than it was made out to be except compared to the 2000 and 2004 which were historically close. Reagan won in landslides.

[Riot]

Your take is misguided, liberal rhetoric. Limbaugh is NOT a politician and as such isn't bound by the political correctness that politicians are.

No, my take is from me watching every GOP bigwig that has criticized Rush in public within the past month roll over within 24 hours of their transgression to kiss his azz and beg forgiveness.

[Riot]

The truth is that what is going on with the GOP right now is immaterial

The GOP is becoming completely immaterial.