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Old 06-12-2009, 09:24 PM
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So the Chinese and Russians and British and Italians and greeks and Indians and canadians and mexicans and Brazilians and Japanese and Dutch and Polish and Germans and other non muslim countries were all so impressed with Obama's speech they have moved us up the the World BCS rankings?
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Old 06-12-2009, 09:45 PM
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Some of Carter's statements with regard to Israel and the Palestinians are truly unbelievable. His statements are outright shocking. I don't know how anybody who has any understanding of the situation over there could make such statments. Carter is either a fool or he is just a guy who hates Israel.

Israel has had no choice but to take the measures they have taken. Otherwise they would be facing suicide bombings every day. The measures they have taken have been pretty successful in terms of stopping suicide bombers. Their main security concern now is stopping all the rockets from being fired into Israel.
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Old 06-12-2009, 09:54 PM
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Some of Carter's statements with regard to Israel and the Palestinians are truly unbelievable. His statements are outright shocking. I don't know how anybody who has any understanding of the situation over there could make such statments. Carter is either a fool or he is just a guy who hates Israel.

Israel has had no choice but to take the measures they have taken. Otherwise they would be facing suicide bombings every day. The measures they have taken have been pretty successful in terms of stopping suicide bombers. Their main security concern now is stopping all the rockets from being fired into Israel.
Now imagine someone who admires him for his foreign policy and furthermore equates him with Obama as if it's a good thing...
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Old 06-12-2009, 09:58 PM
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Some of Carter's statements with regard to Israel and the Palestinians are truly unbelievable. His statements are outright shocking. I don't know how anybody who has any understanding of the situation over there could make such statments. Carter is either a fool or he is just a guy who hates Israel.
Israel has had no choice but to take the measures they have taken. Otherwise they would be facing suicide bombings every day. The measures they have taken have been pretty successful in terms of stopping suicide bombers. Their main security concern now is stopping all the rockets from being fired into Israel.

or both?
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Old 06-12-2009, 09:59 PM
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Now imagine someone who admires him for his foreign policy and furthermore equates him with Obama as if it's a good thing...
Well...go find a quote from some google.com who justifies your statement. I love all the sh*t I get for bringing up Bush as a reference, but Jimmy Carter is all of a sudden relevant?
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:01 PM
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Well...go find a quote from some google.com who justifies your statement. I love all the sh*t I get for bringing up Bush as a reference, but Jimmy Carter is all of a sudden relevant?
I did and it came back Riot
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:05 PM
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I did and it came back Riot
try again..this time with meaning..

fyi..crazy ending to today..our favorite mustachio is looking to try out his moves at AP
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:12 PM
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This is the most ridiculous post yet. How do you know what these people know? Because obama is a muslim he is well versed in Middle eastern tribal disputes? On Carter's watch radical Islam came to power in the Middle East. This is so stupid that I cant even believe that you wrote it. So Obama and Carter are smarter than everyone else when it comes to the Middle East? What exactly has Obama done except give a speech that the majority of which was most likely written by someone else? He can quote the "Holy"Koran. Big deal. Lets see how well he fixes all the issues over there especially when Israel bombs the **** out of Iran.
And I find your answer stupidly moronic, narrow minded, fear-based, missing the point, and falling to the embarassing last resort of child-like personal insult just because someone holds an opinion different than you do.

I read and heard Obama's Cairo speech, I have paid attention to his previous comments and writings on the middle east over the past 2-3 years, and I am going by what he has said and demonstrated regarding his understanding of the middle east since he's been in the public eye.

I have read most of Carter's books and watched what happened when he was President (and no, I don't agree with everything that happened on his watch). But I sure as hell respect both these men's exceptional knowledge of the middle east.

That's how I have formed my opinion of "what these people know"

It doesn't agree with your opinion? Too bad. Get over it.
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:14 PM
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try again..this time with meaning..

fyi..crazy ending to today..our favorite mustachio is looking to try out his moves at AP
Oh geez glad I missed that? You going tomorrow? and that admire comment was solely made for Riot
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:16 PM
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Actually it is no but even if it is was yes what tangible difference will it make for the US?
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:18 PM
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Oh geez glad I missed that? You going tomorrow? and that admire comment was solely made for Riot
It was festive, to be sure..

Skipping tomorrow, two in Sunday..one here and one at Belmont. You wouldn't consider Sunday, would you?..you right wing neo con whacko, would you?
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:19 PM
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Now imagine someone who admires him for his foreign policy and furthermore equates him with Obama as if it's a good thing...
I can only assume you don't have very strong ability to comprehend what you read?

I have never said I admired either Carter's or Obama's foreign policy.
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Actually it is no but even if it is was yes what tangible difference will it make for the US?
Well..I think it is yes, and your version of tangible and mine may be different, but we'll see how the next few years play out and then talk
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:20 PM
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It was festive, to be sure..

Skipping tomorrow, two in Sunday..one here and one at Belmont. You wouldn't consider Sunday, would you?..you right wing neo con whacko, would you?
yea I'll try doing both. They have another buy in contest tomorrow so I'll make the trip
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Actually it is no but even if it is was yes what tangible difference will it make for the US?
To quote someone else, "How do you know what these people know?"
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:21 PM
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And I find your answer stupidly moronic, narrow minded, fear-based, missing the point, and falling to the embarassing last resort of child-like personal insult just because someone holds an opinion different than you do.

I read and heard Obama's Cairo speech, I have paid attention to his previous comments and writings on the middle east over the past 2-3 years, and I am going by what he has said and demonstrated regarding his understanding of the middle east since he's been in the public eye.

I have read most of Carter's books and watched what happened when he was President (and no, I don't agree with everything that happened on his watch). But I sure as hell respect both these men's exceptional knowledge of the middle east.

That's how I have formed my opinion of "what these people know"

It doesn't agree with your opinion? Too bad. Get over it.
I was wrong. This post is the most ridiculous.
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:22 PM
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yea I'll try doing both. They have another buy in contest tomorrow so I'll make the trip
Crappy weather tomorrow Rush.must be the anti-global warming forces causing trouble again..Good luck in the contest
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:25 PM
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Well..I think it is yes, and your version of tangible and mine may be different, but we'll see how the next few years play out and then talk
Hell as long as we are aligned with israel even the Arabs which he smothered with love will still hate us. The funny thing is that even though all these other countries supposedly hated Bush what did they not do for us that they suddenly will now?
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:27 PM
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Hell as long as we are aligned with israel even the Arabs which he smothered with love will still hate us. The funny thing is that even though all these other countries supposedly hated Bush what did they not do for us that they suddenly will now?
"Suddenly" ???....Who said that?
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:28 PM
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Hell as long as we are aligned with israel even the Arabs which he smothered with love will still hate us. The funny thing is that even though all these other countries supposedly hated Bush what did they not do for us that they suddenly will now?
will you quit this and help me find some winners at hollywood?
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