9/5 (SAR): Woodward (G1) - Page 6

jwkniska · #**101** 09-05-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll 2nd that!

Sightseek · #**102** 09-05-2009, 06:13 PM

Borel had her out pretty far most of the race - did the track seem better there?

freddymo · #**103** 09-05-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Borel had her out pretty far most of the race - did the track seem better there?

Borel is an idiot all he had to do was rate with her the first half and she wins by 3 or 4. Instead the guy gets hooked in a speed duel???

Cannon Shell · #**104** 09-05-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Borel is an idiot all he had to do was rate with her the first half and she wins by 3 or 4. Instead the guy gets hooked in a speed duel???

It may be a little harder to do that than you think...

and it wasnt much of a speed duel either.

tiggerv · #**105** 09-05-2009, 06:27 PM

22.85, 46.41, 1:10.54, 1:35.48, 1:48.29

She went out in under 23 and still came home in under 13.

boswd · #**106** 09-05-2009, 06:27 PM

Heart pounding. Her most impressive win of the year, it looked like Macho Again had her mid way in the stretch but she fought back and held on.

Macho Again ran a great race as well, 1st in the Stephen Foster, 2nd in the Whitney and 2nd in the Woodward. Looks like he will love the 1 1/4 JCGC.

But the Princess is now The Queen.

freddymo · #**107** 09-05-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It may be a little harder to do that than you think...

and it wasnt much of a speed duel either.

We have seen her rate before.. The ride was comical. If you don't recognize how absurd it was then you'll need to consult people who's opinion you respect on race riding. We all knew Borel could get her beat and he did his very very best.

#**108** 09-05-2009, 06:40 PM

It was a tard ride of the ages but she's just too damn good. Lucky for Borel she is.

fpsoxfan · #**109** 09-05-2009, 06:41 PM

Very Fun to watch! She has nothing left to prove. One of the best females that I've seen in my 20 years of following the sport.

dalakhani · #**110** 09-05-2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

We have seen her rate before.. The ride was comical. If you don't recognize how absurd it was then you'll need to consult people who's opinion you respect on race riding. We all knew Borel could get her beat and he did his very very best.

Is it possible that she might have been a little rank?

Cannon Shell · #**111** 09-05-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

We have seen her rate before.. The ride was comical. If you don't recognize how absurd it was then you'll need to consult people who's opinion you respect on race riding. We all knew Borel could get her beat and he did his very very best.

I love when you guys say they should just rate her. If he had got her bottled up and steadied or checked then you would complain too. He rode her as good as he could considering the circumstances. If the first fraction was .17 slower no one would even notice the fraction. I'm sure Turcotte got Secretariat beat by Onion too right?

Cannon Shell · #**112** 09-05-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

Is it possible that she might have been a little rank?

No because he let her run a little. You know when you notice horses are rank? When the riders are in their mouths. If he had grabbed ahold of her like freddy he would complain about strangling her.

fpsoxfan · #**113** 09-05-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I love when you guys say they should just rate her. If he had got her bottled up and steadied or checked then you would complain too. He rode her as good as he could considering the circumstances. If the first fraction was .17 slower no one would even notice the fraction. I'm sure Turcotte got Secretariat beat by Onion too right?

Great point Chuck! No doubt it was a better ride than most would think.

TheSpyder · #**114** 09-05-2009, 06:50 PM

Can't see anything wrong with the ride and horse is something unreal. Where did all the other horses that were on the pace end up? Way, way back.

The horse is amazing.

freddymo · #**115** 09-05-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No because he let her run a little. You know when you notice horses are rank? When the riders are in their mouths. If he had grabbed ahold of her like freddy he would complain about strangling her.

You don't have to grab anything this filly has proven she is capable of rating. The ride was ridiculous, you will hear this from every single intelligent and respected handicapper in the industry PERIOD.

Cannon Shell · #**116** 09-05-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

You don't have to grab anything this filly has proven she is capable of rating. The ride was ridiculous, you will hear this from every single intelligent and respected handicapper in the industry PERIOD.

I dont care what any handicapper says, horses arent the same everytime they step on the track. Is it possible to read into Jacksons comments that she was a little tired coming into the race and possibly Assmussen went a little lighter on her than usual which can lead to horses being too keyed up on race day? They arent machines, there is no brakes and a free running horse like she is is better going fast than being strangled.

Travis Stone · #**117** 09-05-2009, 06:54 PM

The ride was never going to be easy today.

I'm just happy Jess Jackson bought her and we were able to enjoy a race like the one today.

freddymo · #**118** 09-05-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I love when you guys say they should just rate her. If he had got her bottled up and steadied or checked then you would complain too. He rode her as good as he could considering the circumstances. If the first fraction was .17 slower no one would even notice the fraction. I'm sure Turcotte got Secretariat beat by Onion too right?

Per Crist:

Her narrow margin over Macho Again, a G1 winner but a horse who has never been mistaken for Man o'War, was deceptive. Rachel Alexandra's pace -- 22.85, 46.41, 1:10.54, and 1:35.48 -- was sensationally fast for a nine-furlong race at Saratoga, and when Macho Again came running at her late, he would have gone right by any ordinary racehorse. But Rachel Alexandra had something left, running her final furlong in 12.81 to turn back the challenge.

Not much of a speed duel..Crist knows SENSATIONALLY FAST when he sees it I am sure CJ and DrugS will post the PACE FIG's which are going to lights out..

Your funny if it was .17 slower nobody would notice.

Cannon Shell · #**119** 09-05-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Per Crist:

Her narrow margin over Macho Again, a G1 winner but a horse who has never been mistaken for Man o'War, was deceptive. Rachel Alexandra's pace -- 22.85, 46.41, 1:10.54, and 1:35.48 -- was sensationally fast for a nine-furlong race at Saratoga, and when Macho Again came running at her late, he would have gone right by any ordinary racehorse. But Rachel Alexandra had something left, running her final furlong in 12.81 to turn back the challenge.

Not much of a speed duel..Crist knows SENSATIONALLY FAST when he sees it I am CJ and DrugS will post the PACE FIG's which are going to lights out..

Your funny if it was .17 slower nobody would notice.

Get a grip. No one said it wasnt fast. Going fast early is how most races are won isnt it? That is how the horse runs, plain and simple. If the fracions were 23, 46.41 there would be a whole lot less hysteria about the pace.

freddymo · #**120** 09-05-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont care what any handicapper says, horses arent the same everytime they step on the track. Is it possible to read into Jacksons comments that she was a little tired coming into the race and possibly Assmussen went a little lighter on her than usual which can lead to horses being too keyed up on race day? They arent machines, there is no brakes and a free running horse like she is is better going fast than being strangled.

So now we need to GUESS about how she felt today..Ok Dr Doolittle..The Jock gave her head because he knew that was the only way she could win.. Borel please it was a complete bone head ride. Scav would have won by 3 on her..And likes to be ridden