Obama: Arizona law securing borders is "misguided" - Page 6

dalakhani · #**101** 04-30-2010, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

LOL

I laughed so hard at that too. "becky"...hilarious.

I still can't get over "pickle kisser" from a few years ago.

brianwspencer · #**102** 04-30-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

So many people preaching tolerance and so few practicing it.

My irony meter just exploded.

Princess Doreen · #**103** 04-30-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

My irony meter just exploded.

It truly is a contagious condition - intolerance, that is. Hope you didn't hurt yourself too badly in the explosion.

Danzig · #**104** 04-30-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

My irony meter just exploded.

I hope you had a sock handy!!!

Princess Doreen · #**105** 04-30-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

I hope you had a sock handy!!!

Or the roll on the TP holder wasn't down to the cardboard.

letswastemoney · #**106** 04-30-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

An illegal is an illegal no matter how you look at it. They have no business in this country and becoming a taxpayer's burden. At least some one is trying to do something about it. I comment the Governor of Arizona for not waiting around and taking matters into his own hands.

I'd probably disagree with you on almost any other issue but,

I actually agree with you on this.

I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing that Mexicans want to come here, but there should be a legal procedure if we want to make it easier on them. Everyone in this country, whether visiting or here for a longer stay, should be properly documented!

Riot · #**107** 04-30-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

My irony meter just exploded.

Ya think?

SCUDSBROTHER · #**108** 05-01-2010, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

just moving this forward. i didn't get an answer from anyone on why the feds, mexico, or anyone else should be up in arms about this law. it wasn't a rhetorical question-i really want to know why this is a bad law, or misinformed, etc.

See this:

Stipulates that a law enforcement official or agency cannot solely consider race, color or national origin when implementing these provisions, except as permitted by the U.S. or Arizona Constitution.

Now, how do you make sure that cops will follow this part? .

Nascar1966 · #**109** 05-01-2010, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I'd probably disagree with you on almost any other issue but,

I actually agree with you on this.

I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing that Mexicans want to come here, but there should be a legal procedure if we want to make it easier on them. Everyone in this country, whether visiting or here for a longer stay, should be properly documented!

I also agree with you as long as a non USA citizen has the proper documentation they are more than welcomed to come here.

nomad · #**110** 05-02-2010, 09:41 PM

I'm back, after having read SB1070-492R and it does seems unfair. If you don't have proper papers, you will be fined minimum $1000, plus legal fees & possible imprisonment. Why not just send them back?
If you hire an illegal, you could be fined $1000 per alien if it's 10 more UNLESS (loophole, loophole)...You didn't KNOW they were illegal.

How's a Mexican looking for a job gonna come up with all that money? They're just gonna end up in a US prison...and for what crime.....trying to make some money?
Of course we don't want drugs & criminals. This law doesn't target those cartels.

I'm still back to wanting open borders with our neighbors seeking a day's work.

hi_im_god · #**111** 05-02-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

See this:

Stipulates that a law enforcement official or agency cannot solely consider race, color or national origin when implementing these provisions, except as permitted by the U.S. or Arizona Constitution.

Now, how do you make sure that cops will follow this part? .

the arizona legislature is working on passing a rehabilitation bill removing the word "solely".

they know as worded it wouldn't get past even this supreme court.

ignoring the actual issue of immigration, the only thing dem's could have asked in terms of electoral politics is that arizona waited until september to pass this bill.

this doesn't play into the republican narrative for november at all. they already have the pissed off white folk vote nailed down. the last thing they needed was doofus arizona legislator's handing brown people another reason to go out and vote again.

i still think hispanics could be an important part of the republican base if they'd just get out of the habit of constantly reminding them how much they're not wanted.

GenuineRisk · #**112** 05-02-2010, 10:25 PM

Riot · #**113** 05-02-2010, 10:41 PM

All the good citizens of Arizona are rushing around making copies of their birth certificates and passports, eager to comply with this new law, having to prove their citizenship upon demand from a local cop when they get stopped for speeding.

nomad · #**114** 05-02-2010, 10:57 PM

They shouldn't be speeding

Riot · #**115** 05-02-2010, 11:06 PM

That's not the point, is it?

letswastemoney · #**116** 05-03-2010, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot

All the good citizens of Arizona are rushing around making copies of their birth certificates and passports, eager to comply with this new law, having to prove their citizenship upon demand from a local cop when they get stopped for speeding.

All of us have to carry a driver's license anyway. All of us carry our insurance papers in the car.

Is it really a big deal to leave a copy of your birth certificate/passport by the car insurance papers? I don't think it would be.

Princess Doreen · #**117** 05-03-2010, 07:38 AM

I'm just a natural at picking a fight on the opposing team's bench.

Antitrust32 · #**118** 05-03-2010, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney

All of us have to carry a driver's license anyway. All of us carry our insurance papers in the car.

Is it really a big deal to leave a copy of your birth certificate/passport by the car insurance papers? I don't think it would be.

they really need a birth certificate? Wouldnt a drivers license be enough proof?

SOREHOOF · #**119** 05-03-2010, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

See this:

Stipulates that a law enforcement official or agency cannot solely consider race, color or national origin when implementing these provisions, except as permitted by the U.S. or Arizona Constitution.

Now, how do you make sure that cops will follow this part? .

Reminds me of the seatbelt law in NY. When they wanted it passed, they promised the cops wouldn't pull anyone over just for not wearing a seatbelt. HAR! You will get pulled over just for not wearing a seatbelt, in fact, you will get pulled over for no reason at all if the cops feel like pulling you over. As for the jobs Americans won't do... cut off welfare from some of the scammers in this country and you will be surprised at the jobs they will do. Unfortunately (fortunately?) most of the illegals coming into this country for work bring something with them that seems to be in short supply here. It's called "work ethic".

Antitrust32 · #**120** 05-03-2010, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Reminds me of the seatbelt law in NY. When they wanted it passed, they promised the cops wouldn't pull anyone over just for not wearing a seatbelt. HAR! You will get pulled over just for not wearing a seatbelt, in fact, you will get pulled over for no reason at all if the cops feel like pulling you over. As for the jobs Americans won't do... cut off welfare from some of the scammers in this country and you will be surprised at the jobs they will do. Unfortunately (fortunately?) most of the illegals coming into this country for work bring something with them that seems to be in short supply here. It's called "work ethic".

great post man.