8/29 (SAR): Personal Ensign S. (G1) - Page 6

Arletta · #**101** 08-29-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Little confused why Borel felt the need to send no matter what. So he guns against an inferior speed horse, if that horse goes he has no choice once committing, if he sits back and feels they are going too slow then he can send. Not sure that was a good tactic.

Still you craaaaaaaaaaaaaawl home like that you should win against the likes of persistently.

Perhaps those were his instructions.

The Indomitable DrugS · #**102** 08-29-2010, 06:49 PM

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Little confused why Borel felt the need to send no matter what. So he guns against an inferior speed horse, if that horse goes he has no choice once committing, if he sits back and feels they are going too slow then he can send. Not sure that was a good tactic.

It's never the jockey on the inside's fault in a speed duel - it's always the jockey on the outside's fault.

This is like common sense 101.

Life At Ten went on a suicide mission - she was OPEN LENGTHS better than Persistantly today ... but she gets 3rd money for it ... and was off the tv screen at the finish.

10 pnt move up · #**103** 08-29-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It's never the jockey on the inside's fault in a speed duel - it's always the jockey on the outside's fault.

This is like common sense 101.

Life At Ten went on a suicide mission - she was OPEN LENGTHS better than Persistantly today ... but she gets 3rd money for it ... and was off the tv screen at the finish.

So what your saying is that if a speed horse like LIT is in the race, outside of RA she never could take back, I find that a bit hard to believe.

She still should have won but just don't think it was a very good ride.

Here I am making excuses for the horse.....of all people.

10 pnt move up · #**104** 08-29-2010, 06:54 PM

So Doug do you think the classic this year will have a slower pace? What do you make of RA's chances in that race?

Danzig · #**105** 08-29-2010, 06:54 PM

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What are you delusional? When was the CLASSIC ever IN? Wasn't it clear she was done when Little Z bounced her? It was the SPIN by the BEYERITES, who desperately needed her to return to some semblance of last year's form, especially after their other darling, QR, got beat, that kept that CLASSIC talk for her going. She NEVER had a shot in the Classic.

why do you say that? rachel had a hell of a campaign last year, hoy worthy. any horse would have been hard pressed to repeat such a year. whatever she does this year has nothing to do with last year. if the saints don't repeat, do they lose last years super bowl? i haven't understood this reasoning from anyone at all this year. rachel did what she did, an unreal 3 yo campaign for a filly-it doesn't require backing up. i thought you considered yourself a pro at this game? you sound like a rank amateur when you start this line.

it's a shame, i think they have completely messed up with rachel this year.

Danzig · #**106** 08-29-2010, 06:54 PM

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So Doug do you think the classic this year will have a slower pace? What do you make of RA's chances in that race?

i doubt she goes.

RockHardTen1985 · #**107** 08-29-2010, 06:56 PM

The only real shame is Z's connections. Rachels know she is not the same and they have really just run her accordingly. Look at the horse who tested her at Monmouth last time, look what she did today. Some people came on here saying she was actually good and moved up on dirt, yes she proved it today. The shame is this... Z would have not only won, but cruised in every race Rachel has been in this year. Dont get me wrong Rachel is HOY last year and like the article on DRF says nothing changes that, but she is not the same filly and not nearly as good as Z.

10 pnt move up · #**108** 08-29-2010, 06:57 PM

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i doubt she goes.

why, nothing to lose now, handicap older mare is over.

Dahoss · #**109** 08-29-2010, 06:58 PM

Mike Smith

CSC · #**110** 08-29-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It's never the jockey on the inside's fault in a speed duel - it's always the jockey on the outside's fault.

This is like common sense 101.

Life At Ten went on a suicide mission - she was OPEN LENGTHS better than Persistantly today ... but she gets 3rd money for it ... and was off the tv screen at the finish.

Was Siphon open lengths better than Dare And Go in the Pacific Classic? Or did Bailey phuck up by keeping tabs on Siphon, or was it really that dip$hit Nakatani on Dramatic Gold for messing with Cigar? To me that's what makes horseracing, no need for explanations or excuses, good horses should be able to overcome crap at times.

fpsoxfan · #**111** 08-29-2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It's never the jockey on the inside's fault in a speed duel - it's always the jockey on the outside's fault.

This is like common sense 101.

Life At Ten went on a suicide mission - she was OPEN LENGTHS better than Persistantly today ... but she gets 3rd money for it ... and was off the tv screen at the finish.

Drugs..you are trying to talk common sense with a freaking clown. For years, especially this past year, I come on to read mainly. I've read RHT's post and his dream bets. He's the most annoying poster I've ever seen on here, and that's saying a lot. I've been on this thing since 2006 and have never seen anyone post a 100WPS bet on a maiden claiming turf race. So, the bottom line don't waste your time trying to talk sense into him.

Danzig · #**112** 08-29-2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

why, nothing to lose now, handicap older mare is over.

because, if she can't win at 10f today, i don't think she can in nov. i'd like to see her run, i've got tickets...i just think she'd be better suited at 1 1/8. too bad the classic wasn't on dirt last year.

Dahoss · #**113** 08-29-2010, 07:02 PM

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Drugs..you are trying to talk common sense with a freaking clown. For years, especially this past year, I come on to read mainly. I've read RHT's post and his dream bets. He's the most annoying poster I've ever seen on here, and that's saying a lot. I've been on this thing since 2006 and have never seen anyone post a 100WPS bet on a maiden claiming turf race. So, the bottom line don't waste your time trying to talk sense into him.

He does have quite the bankroll doesn't he?

The Indomitable DrugS · #**114** 08-29-2010, 07:03 PM

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So Doug do you think the classic this year will have a slower pace? What do you make of RA's chances in that race?

In general,

I liked both RA and Life at Ten's races today. I'm a huge fan of both performances...especially Life At Ten's big race today.

Persistantly is the kind of horse you live to bet against.

The problems is - RA and LIT have the nice back forms and Persistantly doesn't... so the race won't offer the kind of big betting value down the line that it should.

As for the Classic - I think RA's chances were helped significantly today .. however, I doubt she goes in the race now.

The reason why her chances were bettered so much today is because 1.) Her performance was no worse than any of her previous races this year and 2.) it's now a 100% lock that no one would challenge her on the lead in the BC Classic off of this race. They will view her as a horse who can't see out 10 furlongs - but if they press her - they know they will pay a gigantic price for it. So ... she basically won the right to a cozy uncontested lead in the race today.

Rileyoriley · #**115** 08-29-2010, 07:04 PM

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congrats to shug, he ought to be thrilled right now.

And the Phipps and their homebred.

Seattleallstar · #**116** 08-29-2010, 07:04 PM

Rachel showed alot in defeat. This race reminds me when Seattle Slew lost to Exceller, after Slew fought Affirmed and put him away only to have Exceller pick up the pieces to get Slew in the end.

10 pnt move up · #**117** 08-29-2010, 07:07 PM

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Rachel showed alot in defeat. This race reminds me when Seattle Slew lost to Exceller, after Slew fought Affirmed and put him away only to have Exceller pick up the pieces to get Slew in the end.

Most people already used that in her first race back..........

the rest that hadn't certainly used that line after the CD race.

Dahoss · #**118** 08-29-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I have been exchanging emails with there leader for about a week now. The guy is a clown and clueless, he darts me for NO REASSON AT ALL. Then in his emails to me, he is actually bringing up other posters and asking me questions about them, basicley telling me to spill it and I can return.

I know this is going to come as a shock to everyone....but this is a total lie.

Hard to believe the guy that built an OTB in his backyard is lying, but he is.

#**119** 08-29-2010, 07:11 PM

Guess I'll have to watch the race.

Whoopity-doo another highly overrated horse lost.

If only the other one would lose so the madness would stop.

CSC · #**120** 08-29-2010, 07:13 PM

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I know this is going to come as a shock to everyone....but this is a total lie.

Hard to believe the guy that built an OTB in his backyard is lying, but he is.

Not from my experience, the guy seemed like an arrogant SOB when we exchanged PM's with no tolerance for free speech whatsoever. Give him my regards DH, and tell him I'm smiling.