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hockey2315 · #**101** 10-25-2010, 04:22 PM

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I dont see how the other races have made the BC better, it was much more interesting when the euro horses entered both the filly and colt juveniles....when mile horses with speed tried to stretch it to 10F.

The turf sprint is even a novelty IMO, is there even a grade 1 turf sprint, or how many are grade 2 during the year. Again was better to have them try it in the dirt, would we have ever had a Sheik Albadou if there was a grass sprint?

You must not bet. . .

The GI Nearctic was run at Woodbine last weekend.

Travis Stone · #**102** 10-25-2010, 04:24 PM

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The turf sprint is even a novelty IMO, is there even a grade 1 turf sprint, or how many are grade 2 during the year. Again was better to have them try it in the dirt, would we have ever had a Sheik Albadou if there was a grass sprint?

Turf Sprints to me are a catch all for horses incapable of running in other distances/surfaces. Open the gates, run like hell and hope you can keep it going to the end. 5 furlongs bursts are easier than sustaining your speed going longer.... even over 6f's.

10 pnt move up · #**103** 10-25-2010, 04:27 PM

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You must not bet. . .

Thats a great comeback.......so the justification for it being the highest level of the sport is if its a great betting race.

They should make all stake races at Hoosier Park grade 1's and every race run at HP a listed stake if that was the case.

hockey2315 · #**104** 10-25-2010, 04:33 PM

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Thats a great comeback.......so the justification for it being the highest level of the sport is if its a great betting race.

They should make all stake races at Hoosier Park grade 1's and every race run at HP a listed stake if that was the case.

Gone are the days where racing will draw because of the quality of the horses. . . The old people and purists need to get over it.

My knowledge doesn't go far enough back to confirm this, but all anyone ever says is how much the horses of today suck compared to the horses from past generations. . . so who cares about the "highest level of the sport"?

The only way racing has any chance of surviving is if it is presented as an attractive betting product and alternative to the less intellectually driven forms of gambling that dominate the market.

RockHardTen1985 · #**105** 10-25-2010, 06:12 PM

Does anyone think Morning Line can make an impact in the Classic?

RockHardTen1985 · #**106** 10-25-2010, 07:03 PM

Is Allure d’Amour running in the Juvy Filly Turf race?

NTamm1215 · #**107** 10-25-2010, 07:04 PM

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Does anyone think Morning Line can make an impact in the Classic?

For five furlongs or so.

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Is Allure d’Amour running in the Juvy Filly Turf race?

Yes, she's Pletcher's 2nd best horse in the race.

RockHardTen1985 · #**108** 10-25-2010, 07:05 PM

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For five furlongs or so.

Yes, she's Pletcher's 2nd best horse in the race.

I think she will prove to be better then More Then Real.

the_fat_man · #**109** 10-25-2010, 07:40 PM

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Turf Sprints to me are a catch all for horses incapable of running in other distances/surfaces. Open the gates, run like hell and hope you can keep it going to the end. 5 furlongs bursts are easier than sustaining your speed going longer.... even over 6f's.

These PLUGS are so woeful that it's a wonder they're able to win any of those turf sprints. What with all those dirt sprinters and dirt/turf routers running in those easy pickings races. Oh wait, that doesn't really happen does it?

These PLUGS regularly kick the s h i t out of dirt sprinters and dirt/turf cutbacks, when turf sprinting.

And, I play these races @ CRC, TAM, GP, FG, MTH, KEE, CD, SAR, etc., and with the exception of, arguably, the strongest turf bias I've witnessed in over 30 years of playing the races, @ SAR, it doesn't really seem to work out as much as one would think for the speed.

Which probably means these horses have a 'special' ability. Clearly, they have the best 'footwork' in the game.

RockHardTen1985 · #**110** 10-25-2010, 07:41 PM

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These PLUGS are so woeful that it's a wonder they're able to win any of those turf sprints. What with all those dirt sprinters and dirt/turf routers running in those easy pickings races. Oh wait, that doesn't really happen does it? These PLUGS regularly kick the s h i t out of dirt sprinters and dirt/turf cutbacks, when turf sprinting.

And, I play these races @ CRC, TAM, GP, FG, MTH, SAR, etc., and with the exception of, arguably, the strongest turf bias I've witnessed in over 30 years of playing the races, @ SAR, it doesn't really seem to work out as much as one would think for the speed.

Which probably means these horses have a 'special' ability. Clearly, they have the best 'footwork' in the game.

Since you play so many of these races, do you have any opinion on the BC Turf Sprint?

the_fat_man · #**111** 10-25-2010, 07:46 PM

Haven't followed the game since the last week @ SAR. Significantly behind in terms of data. Doubtful I catch up by BC day. No opinion, sorry.

JerseyJ · #**112** 10-25-2010, 07:46 PM

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Since you play so many of these races, do you have any opinion on the BC Turf Sprint?

I love how TFM considers these horses plugs strictly because they specialize in something...most horses do specialize in one thing because that's what their trainers become good at. I don't mind turf sprints, I will play them. I think they are fun races and outstanding races to cap and bet because often times it's chaos at the finish and trips play the biggest part in them. And really I thought Saratoga's course didn't play so biased towards the turf sprints, it was the routes where horses went right to the front and strictly wired field. The 500 thousand dollar question here is though, even though he may play so many of them, is the opinion of an 0 for 66er at one point really the best place to look?

RockHardTen1985 · #**113** 10-25-2010, 07:47 PM

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Haven't followed the game since the last week @ SAR. Significantly behind in terms of data. Doubtful I catch up by BC day. No opinion, sorry.

Did something happen? Are you in good health?
If you need someone to talk to Joey is here.

hockey2315 · #**114** 10-25-2010, 07:48 PM

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I love how TFM considers these horses plugs strictly because they specialize in something...most horses do specialize in one thing because that's what their trainers become good at. I don't mind turf sprints, I will play them.

The 500 thousand dollar question here is though, even though he may play so many of them, is the opinion of an 0 for 66er really the best place to look?

He was being sarcastic.

NTamm1215 · #**115** 10-25-2010, 08:05 PM

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I think she will prove to be better then More Then Real.

That doesn't have anything to do with her sire, right?

RockHardTen1985 · #**116** 10-25-2010, 08:08 PM

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That doesn't have anything to do with her sire, right?

Im actually not aware of who her sire is? I know she ran well first out, and her maiden win WAS EASY. With that name is she an M D'Oro?

NTamm1215 · #**117** 10-25-2010, 08:12 PM

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Im actually not aware of who her sire is? I know she ran well first out, and her maiden win WAS EASY. With that name is she an M D'Oro?

Nice try.

RockHardTen1985 · #**118** 10-25-2010, 08:17 PM

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Nice try.

Elaborate?

hockey2315 · #**119** 10-25-2010, 08:22 PM

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Elaborate?

There is no way that you're incapable of looking up the sire of a horse.

RockHardTen1985 · #**120** 10-25-2010, 08:24 PM

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There is no way that you're incapable of looking up the sire of a horse.

I got it now.