2/26 (GP): Fountain of Youth, Hutcheson, Davona Dale (G2's) - Page 6

Travis Stone · #**101** 02-26-2011, 05:33 PM

I would have never thought Soldat would be the favorite when the gates opened.

Betsy · #**102** 02-26-2011, 05:34 PM

VERY disappointed in THAS........ I understand that maybe he wasn't 100%, but he should have run better than he did. If I'm Mott, I don't even consider the Derby with him. I doubt he got anything out of this race, not enough for him to run 1 1/4 miles in May

ateamstupid · #**103** 02-26-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

VERY disappointed in THAS........ I understand that maybe he wasn't 100%, but he should have run better than he did. If I'm Mott, I don't even consider the Derby with him. I doubt he got anything out of this race, not enough for him to run 1 1/4 miles in May

Do you ever give it a rest?

ateamstupid · #**104** 02-26-2011, 05:36 PM

On another note, War Front is off to an unbelievable start as a sire.

robfla · #**105** 02-26-2011, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

VERY disappointed in THAS........ I understand that maybe he wasn't 100%, but he should have run better than he did. If I'm Mott, I don't even consider the Derby with him. I doubt he got anything out of this race, not enough for him to run 1 1/4 miles in May

hoovesupsideyourhead · #**106** 02-26-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

On another note, War Front is off to an unbelievable start as a sire.

pomeroy too along with first sam

Indian Charlie · #**107** 02-26-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

VERY disappointed in THAS........ I understand that maybe he wasn't 100%, but he should have run better than he did. If I'm Mott, I don't even consider the Derby with him. I doubt he got anything out of this race, not enough for him to run 1 1/4 miles in May

I never even understood the love this horse got from fans and media in the first place.

Who knows though. Maybe something happened to him, or he didn't like the track.

freddymo · #**108** 02-26-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Betsy. The obstinate aspect, which was suggested in a humorous vein, is not that you're disagreeing with me.. There's nothing to disagree about with me as I have no opinion on the decision itself. I don't care what KMc and Darley do with Crossbow. I was only trying to explain the thought process and why/where particulars involved in decision-making of this kind and its' merits. I'll give you Kiaran McLaughlin's or Jimmy Bell's contact info if you want. You can explain their folly to them.

Steve, just have Casey give Betsy the phone book, now she needs Mott's #. Steve didn't Mott rell EVERYONE the FOY was not going to be the colts finest hour?

Betsy · #**109** 02-26-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I never even understood the love this horse got from fans and media in the first place.

Who knows though. Maybe something happened to him, or he didn't like the track.

What didn't you like about his performance as a 2 year old?

Also, I remember Indomitable Drug wondering if Bernardini took after his dam in siring relatively precocious horses (she didn't do so well past her juvenile year).............and maybe he's right. So far, about 15th on the 2nd crop sires list and I can count the number of his horses on one hand that have shown real promise this year. Of course it's too early to say they haven't trained on, but it's something to keep an eye on.

declansharbor · #**110** 02-26-2011, 05:41 PM

I need that book that deciphers trainer-speak.

Betsy · #**111** 02-26-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

pomeroy too along with first sam

How is First Samurai off to a great start? He has 2 SW, one of which, Le Mi Geauz, hasn't run well since she won that stakes in NY. He's off to an ok start, but nothing special.

Indian Charlie · #**112** 02-26-2011, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

On another note, War Front is off to an unbelievable start as a sire.

Does he have any other interesting horses beyond TF and Soldat?

freddymo · #**113** 02-26-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

What didn't you like about his performance as a 2 year old?

Also, I remember Indomitable Drug wondering if Bernardini took after his dam in siring relatively precocious horses (she didn't do so well past her juvenile year).............and maybe he's right. So far, about 15th on the 2nd crop sires list and I can count the number of his horses on one hand that have shown real promise this year. Of course it's too early to say they haven't trained on, but it's something to keep an eye on.

You need Byk to get you Moss's # now to have them abort Zenyatta's foal?

The Indomitable DrugS · #**114** 02-26-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

LATE money thrown down on Soldat made him the 7/5 favorite.

Soldat was trading actively in betting exchanges at 7/5 early on in the betting ... a stream of fish came along and kept nibbling at the bait and slowly he was trading almost as high as 5/2. With about 2 minutes to go - someone looking to lock in 2.00-to-1 on him came in and offered 4K to layers at that price.

You could have got To Honor And Serve at 2/1 late in the betting. A Soldat backer or maybe a few of them - played it very well in the exchanges.

Betsy · #**115** 02-26-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla

What exactly is your problem? I get that THAS wasn't going to be 100%, but he really ran a very poor race. He was factious in the gate for one.........he almost seemed a bit rank early. I had expected him to blow by Soldat, but then I really thought going in he was a very good horse. Do you really think that Mott can get this horse ready for 1 1/4 after his next start? He's got a lot of questions to answer now.

freddymo · #**116** 02-26-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Does he have any other interesting horses beyond TF and Soldat?

The Phipps the other day is a War Front

paulo537 · #**117** 02-26-2011, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Steve, just have Casey give Betsy the phone book, now she needs Mott's #. Steve didn't Mott rell EVERYONE the FOY was not going to be the colts finest hour?

He was finished at the 5/16 pole.

Betsy · #**118** 02-26-2011, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Does he have any other interesting horses beyond TF and Soldat?

A ton of allowance/maiden winners it seems - Data Link for one.

Betsy · #**119** 02-26-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by paulo537

He was finished at the 5/16 pole.

Yes, that was not a good sign. I don't think Mott expected THAS to run that poorly; there's a difference between not being 100% and just being bad. Had it been just a matter of not being totally cranked, the colt would have been beaten maybe a couple of lengths or so; instead he faded badly.

Indian Charlie · #**120** 02-26-2011, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

What didn't you like about his performance as a 2 year old?

Also, I remember Indomitable Drug wondering if Bernardini took after his dam in siring relatively precocious horses (she didn't do so well past her juvenile year).............and maybe he's right. So far, about 15th on the 2nd crop sires list and I can count the number of his horses on one hand that have shown real promise this year. Of course it's too early to say they haven't trained on, but it's something to keep an eye on.

He just did not impress me in the same way he impressed others.

He got the softest of trips and he I don't think he finished as well off those easy setups as he should have, for a horse of his hype.

I didn't think he sucked or anything though.

As for Bernardini, who knows how good he'll be, but right now he's the odds on choice to be the sire of a triple crown winner in 2015!