Random observations on 9/11

Originally Posted by geeker2

Here's the real problem..... MSM and their bias.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ypt_libya.html


what else are they covering up or shading the truth on ?

You're not ready to go down that rabbit hole. I wouldn't advise it either. Keep your sanity in the false reality.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

You're not ready to go down that rabbit hole. I wouldn't advise it either. Keep your sanity in the false reality.

We live in the rabbit hole - some of them just don't know it yet

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Here's the real problem..... MSM and their bias.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ypt_libya.html


what else are they covering up or shading the truth on ?

well, that's part of the real problem.

the real problem is that our government has become too beholden to those with the big money. it's those with the cash who also have the control-and not just in the media.

but the media has been controlled by poLIEticians as well. the parties used to have their own newspaper 'back in the day'. even thomas jefferson had a writer on his payroll, spouting stories that came straight from thomas (he abhorred confrontation, and always used others to be his attack dog) or one of his political buddies, such as madison. of course jefferson was both wealthy and a poLIEtician, so he was doubly damned.

[Danzig]

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2...situation?lite


note the points made, several paragraphs down, regarding blaming the media.

romney's idiocy aside, it is a tricky situation with the attacks last night that occurred in yemen.

[dellinger63]

No worries it's just a 'small minority' who are protesting.

We gave and give Egypt billions and this is how they say thank you?

For God's sake stop the madness and checks going out NOW!

[Danzig]

http://news.yahoo.com/libya-makes-ar...175308342.html

four arrested in libya, suspected of helping in the embassy attack.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://news.yahoo.com/libya-makes-ar...175308342.html

four arrested in libya, suspected of helping in the embassy attack.

Hopefully, this is a step in the right direction. I commend Obama for vowing to bring these thugs to justice. Let's see if he will actually carry through on that like a leader.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

No worries it's just a 'small minority' who are protesting.

We gave and give Egypt billions and this is how they say thank you?

For God's sake stop the madness and checks going out NOW!

And if Ron Paul was running the show that is exactly what would be done.

[Danzig]

http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/cae6...103b985f4742a2


BENGHAZI, Libya (AP) — The attack that killed four Americans in Libya, including the U.S. ambassador, was an organized two-part operation by heavily armed militants that included a precisely timed raid on a supposedly secret safe house just as Libyan and U.S. security forces were arriving to rescue evacuated consulate staff, a senior Libyan security official said on Thursday.

Wanis el-Sharef, eastern Libya's deputy interior minister, said the attacks Tuesday night were suspected to have been timed to mark the 9/11 anniversary and that the militants used civilians protesting an anti-Islam film as cover for their action. Infiltrators within the security forces may have tipped off militants to the safe house location, he said.

He said an unspecified number of militants suspected of taking part in the attack have been arrested and that others were being closely monitored by police to see whether they are linked to a group. He refused to elaborate.

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._smirked_.html

The story has just begun. We don’t yet know its contours—whether it will unfold as a one-shot tragedy or as the opening salvo of a monumental crisis. But less than a full day after the violent assault on the U.S. embassy in Egypt and the killing of our ambassador and three of his staff in Libya, a few lessons can be noted.

First, diplomacy still matters, perhaps above all else. Hillary Clinton reported this morning, in her most eloquent news conference as secretary of state, that Libyan citizens and security forces had tried to fight off the small mob of militants who set fire to the U.S. consulate in Benghazi and that, afterward, they’d sheltered many survivors and carried the ambassador, J. Christopher Stevens, to a nearby hospital. They did this, in good part, because they knew Stevens. A year ago, as the U.S. emissary, he had helped the rebels—who now form Libya’s fledgling democratic government—in their fight to overthrow Muammar Qaddafi. Ever since, he’d been greeted as a friend in his travels around the country.

Similarly, Clinton said, Egyptian security forces helped American guards stave off those who stormed the U.S. embassy in Cairo before much damage was done. Though she didn’t mention it, the new president, Mohamed Morsi, must know that his country’s fortunes, and thus his own political prospects, depend on foreign aid and investment. A few days earlier, Morsi had met with American businessmen and tried to assure them that the climate for investment was sound. Nobody will believe this message if he can’t guarantee the security of foreign embassies on Egyptian soil—or prosecute those who violate their sovereign status.

Derka derka derka oi oi oi

or something.

Way to go Shillary!!

Four Chinese ships have entered Japanese waters near a group of disputed islets claimed by both Beijing and Tokyo, refusing to follow the Japanese coast guard's orders to vacate its territorial waters.
Currently, four Chinese ships are stationed in the area, which Japan considers its territorial waters.Another four ships are stationed outside the disputed area.

http://rt.com/news/chinese-ships-bre...al-border-101/

I'm sure it's no big deal.

Ugh.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

http://rt.com/news/chinese-ships-bre...al-border-101/

I'm sure it's no big deal.

Ugh.

Eve of Destruction

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

http://rt.com/news/chinese-ships-bre...al-border-101/

I'm sure it's no big deal.

Ugh.

The real action is going to be a little farther south, where there are ever larger deposits of oil and gas, as well as some shipping lanes that the Chinese navy can easily block.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

http://rt.com/news/chinese-ships-bre...al-border-101/

I'm sure it's no big deal.

Ugh.

just keeps getting better and better, doesn't it?

[Danzig]

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...-thwarted?lite


these types of stories just don't get enough attention. things like this are how we should be handling the 'war on terror'. should also remind people that other countries are taking this fight against militants seriously, and aren't just standing idly by, letting muslim extremists ruin their way of life.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._smirked_.html

The story has just begun. We don’t yet know its contours—whether it will unfold as a one-shot tragedy or as the opening salvo of a monumental crisis. But less than a full day after the violent assault on the U.S. embassy in Egypt and the killing of our ambassador and three of his staff in Libya, a few lessons can be noted.

First, diplomacy still matters, perhaps above all else. Hillary Clinton reported this morning, in her most eloquent news conference as secretary of state, that Libyan citizens and security forces had tried to fight off the small mob of militants who set fire to the U.S. consulate in Benghazi and that, afterward, they’d sheltered many survivors and carried the ambassador, J. Christopher Stevens, to a nearby hospital. They did this, in good part, because they knew Stevens. A year ago, as the U.S. emissary, he had helped the rebels—who now form Libya’s fledgling democratic government—in their fight to overthrow Muammar Qaddafi. Ever since, he’d been greeted as a friend in his travels around the country.

Similarly, Clinton said, Egyptian security forces helped American guards stave off those who stormed the U.S. embassy in Cairo before much damage was done. Though she didn’t mention it, the new president, Mohamed Morsi, must know that his country’s fortunes, and thus his own political prospects, depend on foreign aid and investment. A few days earlier, Morsi had met with American businessmen and tried to assure them that the climate for investment was sound. Nobody will believe this message if he can’t guarantee the security of foreign embassies on Egyptian soil—or prosecute those who violate their sovereign status.

I dont think I believe a word Hillary said.

There are pictures of Stevens being dragged on the ground.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I dont think I believe a word Hillary said.

There are pictures of Stevens being dragged on the ground.

Hillary only sees what's in her head.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I dont think I believe a word Hillary said.

There are pictures of Stevens being dragged on the ground.

There are pictures of Libyan security rushing Stevens on foot (they are carrying him) to the hospital. We have Stevens body. He was not "dragged through the streets by a mob", as has been falsely reported on some inflammatory American right-wing anti-Muslim web sites.

[Danzig]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/15/wo...r-4th-day.html


more protests in more countries, and other country's embassies also being targeted.




and who can argue with this logic:

In Hilla, in the Shiite-dominated south, a witness reported the burning of American and Israeli flags. In Kufa, another Shiite town in the south, a mosque preacher declared his belief that the four Americans killed in the attack in Libya actually died at the hands of the American government to create a pretext for the United States to seek revenge and extend its presence in the region.




i can't believe they burned obama's effigy..i mean, he won the nobel peace prize!