My theory and feelings on Polytrack - Page 6

Danzig · #**101** 10-18-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Do you believe he created you? Do you believe he created horses? If not, I understand....you don't apply to this conversation if you don't believe in your creator....It requires that basis to drive my arguement home....the 'Big Bang' theory doesn't work here....

so if i don't believe in god i should like poly? or i shouldn't? not sure that it would matter one way or the other!!
after all, intelligent design would mean horses were created....sure doesn't look like eohippus out there to me!! where'd all the toes go?

lol just kidding a bit, i'm not trying to stir a darwin/evolution/creator/intelligent design discussion.

when you have tracks such as oaklawn and churchill, seems the others could have found a way to have a safe dirt track...or just go with turf, both all natural surfaces.

also, regarding breeding...if that bubble bursts a LOT of people are going to be out of business. a ton of them. you think coolmore and the sheik are bad for business now?? just wait til only the few are left, while the many are left wondering what the heck happened to their farms.

my 'you' above is directed to anyone who thinks that a few incredibly wealthy people are bad for the sport, not directed at cunningham....

Danzig · #**102** 10-18-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

I just wanted to post to see if my avatar works..

it works...one of my favorite pictures...along with my own of course!!

#**103** 10-18-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner

and.. there it is!!

couldn't resist, could you.

Hey bro,
If the shoe fits........................

TitanSooner · #**104** 10-18-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

The people of New Orelans knew that they were in a high-risk area for hurricanes but they belive their Governing body would protect them (with levees, evacs, etc.)....Did that ahppen? and Do you blame the people of south Louisiana for their own loss? If so, you are a moron, sir....

Oh, and I lived in New Orleans and had many friends and family hit hard by the storm and aftermath last August - so I think I can talk about it.....

do you call a lot of people morons in real life as well? or just behind your computer.

#**105** 10-18-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

LOL!!!
I'll take that to mean "I don't have the slightest clue, but I will continue to argue on about the economic side of the industry that I know absolutely nothing about"
The difference here is that I have never been arrogantor stupid enough to question your knowledge on science topics.
And as far as inferiority complexes go, you should see how angry you get when you can't argue something as intelligently as you argue your field, and show us so by often attempting to divert any argument into the scientific field where you feel more secure and knowledgable.

And what was my SPECIFIC arguement AGAINST YOUR SPECIFIC KNOWLEGE OF POLYTRACK? Not of horse racing in general. Cmon man. Im a little more with it than that. Dont side issue me, and then get upset when I do the same. You did it again. You use the same complaint of my questioning and your own accomplished exactly the same thing. Stop with it. Its old and it does not wash with me. Come out straight and you will have no problems with me.

#**106** 10-18-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

so if i don't believe in god i should like poly? or i shouldn't? not sure that it would matter one way or the other!!
after all, intelligent design would mean horses were created....sure doesn't look like eohippus out there to me!! where'd all the toes go?

lol just kidding a bit, i'm not trying to stir a darwin/evolution/creator/intelligent design discussion.

when you have tracks such as oaklawn and churchill, seems the others could have found a way to have a safe dirt track...or just go with turf, both all natural surfaces.

also, regarding breeding...if that bubble bursts a LOT of people are going to be out of business. a ton of them. you think coolmore and the sheik are bad for business now?? just wait til only the few are left, while the many are left wondering what the heck happened to their farms.

Zieg you are going to scare Patrick if you keep trying to use examples and facts that are outside his field of expertise.
Don't go using reasons like the possible financial disaster of the game to refute the religious reasons that horses should run on poly.

TitanSooner · #**107** 10-18-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Hey bro,
If the shoe fits........................

I don't believe you should consider me your bro, bro.

#**108** 10-18-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner

do you call a lot of people morons in real life as well? or just behind your computer.

You're right..I shouldn't call names....I hate it when peopel do that too...I'll retract that comment because the truth is that I've never met you...

How about this instead:

The lack of substance in most of your posts makes you look stupid....maybe you're not really stupid..

Hey, I've done dumb and stupid things in my life....like everyday

#**109** 10-18-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

And what was my SPECIFIC arguement AGAINST YOUR SPECIFIC KNOWLEGE OF POLYTRACK? Not of horse racing in general. Cmon man. Im a little more with it than that. Dont side issue me, and then get upset when I do the same. You did it again. You use the same complaint of my questioning and your own accomplished exactly the same thing. Stop with it. Its old and it does not wash with me. Come out straight and you will have no problems with me.

Pat I'm always straight with you and don't have any problems with you.
But you really don't have any idea how you sound trying to lecture people about a business that they know. Like i said, the day I lecture you about science, you can call me a ****ing idiot and I will deserve it and accept it without complaint.

#**110** 10-18-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Zieg you are going to scare Patrick if you keep trying to use examples and facts that are outside his field of expertise.
Don't go using reasons like the possible financial disaster of the game to refute the religious reasons that horses should run on poly.

Yeah I can't wait until all of the tracks have poly and the sheikhs and coolmore and a few of the old bluebloods are left to dodge each other.

Can you say return of the match race? 4 horse Grade 1's?

pba1817 · #**111** 10-18-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

The people of New Orelans knew that they were in a high-risk area for hurricanes but they belive their Governing body would protect them (with levees, evacs, etc.)....Did that ahppen? and Do you blame the people of south Louisiana for their own loss? If so, you are a moron, sir....

Oh, and I lived in New Orleans and had many friends and family hit hard by the storm and aftermath last August - so I think I can talk about it.....

OK, since you seem to keep bringing up non-horse racing industry issues are you trying to make it easier for me to understand your point? You have wavered so far off what we were discussing earlier, from the high class name calling to natural disasters/warfare angles that I have no idea where you are going with this in relation to Polytrack and the Horse racing industry??

#**112** 10-18-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner

I don't believe you should consider me your bro, bro.

Take it easy, brah.

TitanSooner · #**113** 10-18-2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Take it easy, brah.

ok.. I'm sorry.

#**114** 10-18-2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner

I don't believe you should consider me your bro, bro.

Ok, ok, I retract my statement about Cali and apologize for you taking the lighthearted jab very seriously.
But I have to tell you, based upon your insistence that Joel and others should see tragedy and avoid it, if you live near the fault line out there and an earthquake devestates the place, I ain't donating no money to a relief fund for iq challenged folks who should have known better than to live in a state with a major fault line and a history of earthquakes.
That sound logical to you?

Danzig · #**115** 10-18-2006, 06:40 PM

i just really feel that if turfway and other tracks can't run in the middle of winter due to safety, they shouldn't run then!! obviously certain sports aren't made for certain times of the year. winter racing belongs in the deep south, not in places that have hard freezes.

dirt isn't the problem, the overall handling of the sport and it's athletes is the problem. kyroses mentioned breeding and drug practices above--she's right!! what about all the surgically corrected foals? what about the unsound horses being bred because they're fast, but made of glass? what about bleeders?? bute now being allowed everywhere?? those are the problems, not dirt!!

TitanSooner · #**116** 10-18-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

You're right..I shouldn't call names....I hate it when peopel do that too...I'll retract that comment because the truth is that I've never met you...

How about this instead:

The lack of substance in most of your posts makes you look stupid....maybe you're not really stupid..

Hey, I've done dumb and stupid things in my life....like everyday

that's much better. Thanks.

#**117** 10-18-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Are you comparing diabetics dying to polytrack?
WOW! I bet you were one of the 12 guys who liked new Coke also.

Are you comparing the New Coke to Polytrack? God bless it man. Find something new. You are chasing your tail. You just constantly reinforce my assertation that you change arguements.

What about your article with sources on the greater % of injuries on Polytrack? That was much more in line with the original post than all your crazy offshoots. Dont always fall back on that crap I know more about the industry. This was not what was originally argued. quit changing paths. Its boring. I have never argued about your overall knowlege of the industry. Never. Thats why I read this board.

#**118** 10-18-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Yeah I can't wait until all of the tracks have poly and the sheikhs and coolmore and a few of the old bluebloods are left to dodge each other.

Can you say return of the match race? 4 horse Grade 1's?

Pillow, maybe 4 starters but there will be a 3 horse betting interest and only two total betting interests. Guess you nail the exacta each time by boxing it.

TitanSooner · #**119** 10-18-2006, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Ok, ok, I retract my statement about Cali and apologize for you taking the lighthearted jab very seriously.
But I have to tell you, based upon your insistence that Joel and others should see tragedy and avoid it, if you live near the fault line out there and an earthquake devestates the place, I ain't donating no money to a relief fund for iq challenged folks who should have known better than to live in a state with a major fault line and a history of earthquakes.
That sound logical to you?

yes.

and apology accepted.

pba1817 · #**120** 10-18-2006, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Ok, ok, I retract my statement about Cali and apologize for you taking the lighthearted jab very seriously.
But I have to tell you, based upon your insistence that Joel and others should see tragedy and avoid it, if you live near the fault line out there and an earthquake devestates the place, I ain't donating no money to a relief fund for iq challenged folks who should have known better than to live in a state with a major fault line and a history of earthquakes.
That sound logical to you?

I think the whole argument is some people see this as a tragedy and others see it as an opportunity for the industry to grow. Those are two factors that are arguable, but no fact will be known for years to come.