Opinion of the Best Handicapping Tool

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by docicu3

thanks.....I was noticing that you dont buy that a key race is a race where winners are multiple next time out. Are you saying that a key race needs more than two winners next out or bold like the quick sheet does or are you saying that you need to judge a certain level of performance in all of the horses at the same level (MDN clain, alw..etc) of racing? (like the majority of the horses in the race run a new top if you forgive the TGH reference)

Do you think there is an accentuated bounce factor for horses that are in these very competitive races because the drain is likley to be more in a hotly contested race. eg A horse that comes out of a 6F "key race" that has a par of "X" that actually has numbers in say 3 horses 20% above expected par or beyer. do you think those horses are good plays against in sprints next race within 3 weeks?

Do you have some kind of software that keeps track of these races or are they just in the AS computer of PP's?

And yes I have considered decaf on days I am not seeing patients........hope I make you laugh!!!

I basically believe that any shortcut is a road to losing....and defining a race a " key " race simply based upon results, without delving into the truth behind those results, is a shortcut and an error in judgement. What if two horses come out of a maiden race at Saratoga and break their maidens, at odds on, at Delaware and Phili Park, should that somehow elevate the status of the race they came out of? What if four of the returnees came back to improve their Beyer figs, or any figs you use, dramatically in their next start without winning, should one NOT perhaps elevate that race?

Once again, I basically don't believe at all in bounce, and think it is most likely the results of a good or beneficial situation one day and a less good one the next. Plus, I believe the prevalance of drugs has created many false performances that both can't be duplicated and physically affect a horse for its future starts.

Software? I'm lucky I can log into this place.

[docicu3]

Before it goes off Formulator would imply 5/16 here in the 3rd at GP

[docicu3]

Well the 5 won as the F4 would suggest


You don't believe in bounce??? So for the first time in listening to people who make a living at this someone actually said outloud what went against every thing I know about human organisms namely that we repair ourselves from exreme efforts by rest and more improtantly sleep!!!! There is no "bounce" unless your talking about efforts like marathons or other extremes of exertion.........!!!!! And even then you dont need 3 weeks to shake off the Boston Marathon!!!

How many times I have listened to Brown and Ragozin make a fortune off this notion......there ain't no performance software or sheet that predicts DRUGS though......pisses me off beyond articulation!!!!

The whole milkshake nonsense is just one way to temporarily alter acid-base physiology in a living organism thus they don't feel the pain (fatigue) and do not slow down the last furlong. Some day we'll figure out how it's being done with horses but if I want to do it with people in an ICU environment I have about 6 options that you'll NEVER detect and don't think the crooked vet/trainers who do this aren't using human models to cheat us all with horses!!!!

More info than you needed but damn this pisses me off......Better living through chemistry my a--!!!!! You get the picture.

Yes Decaf would be good on days off!!!