Pletcher to have no horses in the Travers

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

11 races...awesome

Here's a link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluegrass_Cat

yeah, just funny in an ironic sort of way that he says this,


"One of our problems is that we have interrupted natural selection," Bill Casner, co-owner of WinStar Farm in Kentucky, said last fall at a summit on the welfare and safety of the racehorse. "We used to select for a much stronger horse. The economics of our day and age have changed the way we breed our horses. At an earlier time, a horse had to earn its way to the breeding shed. Durability was certainly one of those things that was selected for.
"... Now, sales dictate breeding decisions. When matings are planned, one of the big questions is, 'Is she going to give you a pretty baby? Is this mating going to give you a good-looking horse?' It's a beauty contest out there."


and then stands bluegrass cat, a true picture of durability.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

We heard all throughout the Triple Crown season that the reason that Pletcher and Asmussen are successful is their tremendous attention to detail and how they know everything going on with every horse in their respective barns. Whether we believe this or not, the thing that bugs me is that when these guys get nailed for medication violations, they say, "I've got 200 horses spread all over the place, how am I supposed to know?" They can't have it both ways. Either take responsibility for what happens or downsize the stable to a more manageable size.

I agree 100%. The trainer responsibility rule is absolute and there aren't any leniencies or contingencies for trainers with big barns and multiple locations. There are no and should be no excuses here.

Eric

[ELA]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Whether my handle is NoLuvForPletch or WhoShotNellyInTheBelly makes no matter. I'm speaking as an owner and a fan of the sport. I do not like what is happeneing to the game in part because of the Pletchers of the world. Just because my original post didn't articulate everything yours did, and just focused on the point that in meaningful races where Pletch cannot control the framework of the race he seems to do significantly worse than every other day, why does that make my opinion that he is overrated less justified?

Personally, I do think it matters, but that's neither here nor there. Plenty of people don't like certain aspects of the sport and/or the business; I am one of them. Some of these people might also be very passionate about some of these respective issues. Again, I am one of them. Apparently, you are as well. That's great.

Obviously, that doesn't mean your opinion is more or less justified -- at least not in your eyes; however, in my eyes, it might not be objective -- which is what I said. I looked at and viewed your initial point as a weak and myopic arguement attempting to substantiate Pletcher's capabilities, or lack thereof, and in my opinion it wasn't objective. That's all. In coming to that conclusion I also looked at your handle which obviously is reflective of something. That's all.

You want to say he's overrated, that's fine. Like I said, I am not going to argue with you. However, I just didn't think your initial -- single point -- was made objectively.

Eric