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Old 09-21-2007, 04:00 PM
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Discreet Cat runs when he wants to run.

He's the Randy Moss of horse racing.
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:39 PM
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You can never have enough Randy Moss's
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:00 PM
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I completely agree with King Glorious....when both horses were at their best Touch Gold was a superior horse to Silver Charm. However, Silver Charm accomplished more as Touch Gold was sound for about 12 minutes. But, he was some racehorse during those 12 minutes.

Hell, he acted as his own rabbit in the Belmont, and still won.
I don't remember the race exactly, but wasn't Wild Rush, another Stronach runner (different trainer), on the lead that day?
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:03 PM
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I don't remember the race exactly, but wasn't Wild Rush, another Stronach runner (different trainer), on the lead that day?
Sort of....and I was actually joking. Touch Gold went to the lead early, in a reasonably slow pace, then dropped back a bit, and rallied to win.

I think Wild Rush was up front though I think the field was pretty compact.
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:14 PM
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Yeah, that sounds familiar. I guess I should just find the race on youtube or nyra.com. I just remember Silver Charm and Free House hooking up again briefly at the top of the lane until it fell apart that last furlong.
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:34 AM
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To me the key to the '04 TC has always been that on a dry surface going 12f, Smarty Jones was simply not that much better than Birdstone....if he was even better at all under those particular conditions.
Clearly Smarty was the superior animal overall. Smarty was, I believe, vastly superior to Birdstone at any distance up to and including 10f. He was also vastly superior to Birdstone on an off track. But at 12f on a dry track, he was NOT vastly superior.
Therfore, when Smarty was faced with an unfavorable pace and position scenario like he was that day, he couldn't defeat Birdstone.
When people that say that JB "cost Smarty the TC" with his ride on Eddington that day, I think they are really simplifying what happened to the point of absurdity.
BS.
Take away RHT and Eddington and Birdstone is not even close.
Smarty ran on any track. What happened in the Preakness?
The horse lost one flippin race at extraordinary distance with a questionable ride and what has been mentioned. Fantastic animal. And even in the loss he fought all the way to the wire. No give up in that horse. A joy to watch.
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