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04-12-2008, 09:56 AM
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2007 Cleveland Indians AL C 96 66 .593 -- 1 2006 Cleveland Indians AL C 78 84 .481 18.0 4 2005 Cleveland Indians AL C 93 69 .574 6.0 2 2004 Cleveland Indians AL C 80 82 .494 12.0 3 2003 Cleveland Indians AL C 68 94 .420 22.0 4 2002 Cleveland Indians AL C 74 88 .457 20.5 3 2001 Cleveland Indians AL C 91 71 .562 So Mr. MainCourse would like you to think ,other than 2001 and 2007, CC played on some really bad tams. You be the judge how bad those teams were in those years.I might add CC continued to disappoint every year in that time frame offered by MainCourse...some of those years he wasn't even the best pitcher on the team. Nice guy...so was Thome until it came time to use his popularity against the team so as to build out the highest possible contract squeeze he could....where ever that came from. But at least Thome did not fragment in that last year. He's a good to very good starting pitcher. His head keeps him from becoming an elite guy. 
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04-12-2008, 10:00 AM
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Hes certainly not as good as he thinks he is.
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04-12-2008, 11:04 AM
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Well ya know,Bid,I think he has $150,000,000 over 7 or 8 years...or more.....dancing in his head. 90 over 5 just wasn't his thing. Now...realizing he needs another last year to get that or a great year to get even more-----he is now in full spazz.
Predictable. We got Lofton to solve the left field problem last year. Now we have decided to start the year with the same problem. We decided FG was a young guy to stick with in right.They stuck with him for about 8 games. That's the Indians braindust at work again. San Diego lifted Kusmanoff from us and liked him..started him at 3rd. Stuck with over one month at .130. Look at his final numbers. That's what happens when you stick with a guy you believe in.Leftfield is where Wedgie sticks with 2 guys for no apparent reason. There was some good fortune at work for us last year. It doesn't appear it will strike in the same place this year. Hafner=Baerga=BIG TROUBLE!!
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04-12-2008, 11:26 AM
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Baerga reminds me a lot of Heres Johnny. Same bat, same weight problem, same fielding problems. The only difference is Baerga got caught screwing Mesa's wife
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04-12-2008, 11:30 AM
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But funny! I liked Buggy. Great hitting 2nd baseman who wore a Dick Stuart model glove. If you recall...his hitting went south----very fast.I think that is what's happened to Hafner. The Indians are going to be hung with hat big contract for too long. By the way....is that true about Buggy?
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04-12-2008, 11:31 AM
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17-5 4.39 ERA 1.35 WHIP 2001 91-71 good team 13-11 4.37 ERA 1.36 WHIP 2002 74-88 really bad team 13-9 3.60 ERA 1.29 WHIP 2003 68-94 really bad team 11-10 4.12 ERA 1.31 WHIP 2004 80-82 bad team 15-10 4.03 ERA 1.25 WHIP 2005 93-69 good team 12-11 3.22 ERA 1.17 WHIP 2006 78-84 bad team 19-7 3.21 ERA 1.14 WHIP 2007 96-66 really good team I don't see bad performance anywhere...I see really good performance after the 2004 season. I see he played on 2 bad teams, 2 really bad teams, and 2 good teams after his rookie season. I don't see where I was even wrong in what I said. But I am stupid so give me some slack.
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04-12-2008, 11:35 AM
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I don't see bad performance anywhere...I see really good performance after the 2004 season. I see he played on 2 bad teams, 2 really bad teams, and 2 good teams after his rookie season. I don't see where I was even wrong in what I said. But I am stupid so give me some slack.
==================== God what a mark.
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04-12-2008, 11:40 AM
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( I can't believe the guy actually replies.)
But anyway.... ....point of reference. 68-94 is REALLY bad.....but one game shy of its mirror image is.......good. A doorknob will always reveal itself....given enough time and rope----and directions showing how to use the rope.
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04-12-2008, 11:46 AM
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My semantics are off. I called really good teams good proving my idiocy (yes, that puts me right back in the vaporization chamber!!) IF you want semantics I'll call 4 of the teams bad and 2 of them good after his rookie year. He went 49-41 on teams a combined 48 games under .500. He went 51-22 on the teams that went 74 games over .500. He has won. His win percentage was NEVER under .500 on teams that couldn't win half their games EVER.
I am not going to trash a guy with 3 bad starts in 2008 as horrible and say it was obviously predictable. His ERA was over 6 after 1 start in his Cy Young season. I guess that means something. Whatever...another good player in the city you don't like. I don't care. NO one does in all honesty. I'm simply here for entertainment purposes only.
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04-12-2008, 11:50 AM
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04-12-2008, 11:57 AM
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04-12-2008, 12:01 PM
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^^Spazz phase.
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04-12-2008, 12:02 PM
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^^^Steps into Vaporization Chamber.
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04-12-2008, 12:06 PM
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^^^^^what happens when he has zero response to my correctness. simply play smart games that the stupid can't correspond with!! and hit return a lot more....then some more.....
and again and again then some more and again then again. (am I vaporized yet?????)
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